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Why RVP Was Right To Celebrate His Man United Goal vs. Arsenal

by David Preece
10 November 2013 15 Comments

Robin Van Persie was right to celebrate his vital goal against Arsenal today, if he hadn't it would've been a big two fingers at the Man United fans...

Why RVP Was Right To Celebrate His Man United Goal vs. Arsenal

When did it come to this? When did it become such a sin to score against one of you old teams? The sight of players either walking away as if their beloved childhood pet had just ran under the wheels of the number 10 bus or even more sicking, holding up an apologetic hand towards their ex-fans in forgiveness is becoming an all too common occurrence. It drives me mad.

Not celebrating a goal degrades the ultimate joy of football. It’s the whole purpose of the game. And why do these players do it? Out of respect? Respect? If they truly respected their old clubs they would refuse to play against them, just in case they happen to find themselves in a goalscoring position.

What about the respect for their current employers and their fans? Wouldn’t they want to see you fully committed to them and let them share your momentous occasion with them too? Of course they would.

Look at some recent examples. Scott Sinclair was almost in the process of writing a letter of apology to every single Chelsea fan inside the Liberty Stadium  whilst his teammates and the Swansea support were transported into delirium by his strike. I almost half expected him to come out in the second half wearing a black armband, “out of respect”.

There was also the Robbie Keane incident. After rocketing his current, albeit temporary, team into the lead over the club who set him on his way to stardom, he somberly trudged his away back to the halfway line without so much as a raised arm to salute the Villa fans. It was probably the finest goal he had scored in years and he decided to honour the occasion by . . . well, he didn’t honour it all, did he?

Of course, there are times when it is entirely acceptable to look solemn after putting one past an ex-employer but those instances are few and far between. Occasions such as the epic back-heeled goal scored by Denis Law that consigned his beloved Manchester United to the old second division. Naturally, THAT was an appropriate response to what had just happened. The consequences were far more extreme than merely taking three points from them.

When did it come to this? When did it become such a sin to score against one of you old teams?

I remember the day when playing against one of your old teams was an extra motivation to score. It wasn’t just a feeling consigned to just ex-players either.  Players scoring against their hometown team was something that always happened and they seemed to take great delight in twisting the knife. Whenever a Sunderland born player came to play against them at Roker Park, I always expected them to score against us because of their desire to show how well they were doing in their post-Sunderland days.

A prime example is ex-Grimsby and Charlton striker, Clive Mendonca. Sunderland born and bred but also the player who scored a hattrick against them in a Wembley play-off to deny them promotion top the Premier League. Okay, so his mother got all the windows smashed on her house because of his goalscoring feat but that’s besides the point. The fact is he always seemed extra motivated to score against us.

There’ll still be those saying it’s good sportsmanship not to wheel away in jubilation but I couldn’t agree less. It’s exactly the same with the unwritten rule about putting the ball out of play when an opposing player is lying on the floor injured. Haven’t we cottoned on to the fact that this “rule” is taken advantage of on many occasions so as to prevent their opponents taking advantage of a counter attack? That’s what the referee is there for and it should be solely down to him as to when play is stopped. You only have to listen to the groans by the fans of the team in possession to know what the fans think of it.

I don’t want anyone to misconstrue my point. I’m not asking for players to run the length of the pitch and middle-finger the fans that once payed their wages, Adebayor style. It’s not about trying to wind anyone up, it’s just a matter of being professional and showing loyalty to your own support. To celebrate a goal with your fans is to show solidarity and say “That was for you lot!”. That’s respect, loyalty and fan appreciation all rolled in to one and it beats the risk of upsetting a few old friends any day.

I’ve been asked how I’d react if I ever saved a penalty against one of my old clubs and I can honestly say I would treat in the same way as any other. Sure, I’d show my respect, if that’s what you want to call it, before and after the game but for ninety minutes I want to win. In a way, I’d probably want to win more against them than most other clubs. It’s nothing personal, it’s just business.

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Charlietoon 4:54 pm, 30-Mar-2012

It's a sign of respect for the fans and the people who supported them previously and is really only held to the first time a player scores or comes back to his old club. It's Andys first time back at St James since he was sold. He will get booed as do all players when they return the first or second or third time but I dont think the St James park will be particularly malicious...there is no need to.We clearly got the better of the deal so there are not really any hard feelings. Jose is another matter. He stuffed the club round for a season or two delaying his contract etc...made a big deal about how we could never succeed as we sold nolan, barton and others so for us with is Jose they will definitely be some jeering. I wouldn't put it past either of them to score though or for them to at least get an assist. What I dont want to see is that diving Suarez falling about in the penalty box every two seconds.

John Ramos 4:59 pm, 30-Mar-2012

Its a sign a common courtesy and respect. Its a sign of humility and appreciation. Its a waybto tell the fans that I got to this level because of my hardwork and your support. The same reason you don't bad mouth your college because with their tools you received a degree. We see players celebrating 95% of the time, so relax. Your logic fits exactly next to the world is flat. I'm a lifelong LFC supporter and I won't feel disrespected cuz I have at least half a brain. tools you got a degree.

Arfa chance 5:07 pm, 30-Mar-2012

You think he's going to score? That's ambitious

BillytheFish 5:11 pm, 30-Mar-2012

Give the lad a break...Remember he fought tooth and nail to stay at Newcastle, as much as I love my job I would leave for 3 times my salary. But was forced out by a mug, and bought by a mug...What chance has he got?

Timothy 5:18 pm, 30-Mar-2012

This is junk. You're the disrespectful one. There is absolutely nothing wrong in showing your boyhood team some respect, in one way or another. If it means not celebrating a goal you've scored, it's fine. I doubt any Liverpool-supporters will have any problem with him not celebrating for scoring a goal against his favourite team. Actually, it would be a credit to his professionalism. BTW: This (players not celebrating a goal against a former/favourite club) happens all the time, so I don't get why you want to make this a problem. - Timothy, Liverpool-fan.

Mike 5:32 pm, 30-Mar-2012

Loyalty? Respect? I THINK you're talking about things that don't belong in football. It's just a game for chrissakes, played by dense millionaires and watched by simple people who spend WAY too much time philosophising about it. It's a game. Why don't you spend your time writing and talking about politics? Science? Weather?

Charlietoon 6:09 pm, 30-Mar-2012

This is the first time I have ever posted a comment here and now I am getting an email every time someone else comments...anyone know how to unsubscribe...

PaulToon 7:10 pm, 30-Mar-2012

Andy Carroll oh dear oh dear an expensive mistake, he's got more chance of scoring an own goal than in the one he's supposed to score in the boy couldn't score in a brothel he's so damn useless. you've got more chance of doglish coming of the bench and scoring

jack 7:51 pm, 30-Mar-2012

It isn't because it is Carroll's former club. What a pathetic thing to say. It is because it is his team, his boyhood love.

2starsonmeshirt 7:59 pm, 30-Mar-2012

The real reason he wont celebrate is because its such a long time since he scored he dosent know what to do.

abdulah 8:46 pm, 30-Mar-2012

3goals in 40 matches he is overconfident to score a goal!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Frontwheel 2 10:29 pm, 30-Mar-2012

Stop whining for fuck sake,Jesus wept

Ben Battey 9:59 am, 31-Mar-2012

I believe celebration should come from winning a match. All too often the goal celebration distracts the team off their purpose which is to win the match. If he scores it's up to him what he does if people don't like it,just get over it there's more important things to stress over

Cuse 11:37 pm, 31-Mar-2012

You Liverpool fans have cornered the market in over sentimental bollocks haven't you.

Lee 11:13 am, 1-Apr-2012

wasn't this article already posted to ST ages ago? was garbage then....you don't need to know the rest

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