Hells Angels, Outlaws And The Politics Of The Patch - Sabotage Times

P 12 March 2013 U Tony Thompson

Bikers can be found riding en masse in every city on every continent. Often they are drawn together because they are fans of a particular make or model of machine, or because they live in a certain area, but more often than not they bond simply through the sheer joy of riding. Many such clubs identify themselves with ‘patches’ or ‘colours’ sewn onto their jackets, but what untrained eyes see as random choices over positions and designs are actually the result of delicate and lengthy negotiations within the complex world of biker politics.

The majority of organised bikers belong to MCCs – Motor Cycle Clubs – and wear their patches on the front or side of their jackets. Joining such a club is easy and requires little in the way of ongoing commitment. Patches are available for purchase by anyone who turns up to a rally or meeting and the main goal of the club is to enhance the social life of its members.

At the other end of the scale are the MCs – Motorcycle Clubs. The absence of that one letter makes a world of difference. An MC is about more than brotherhood, more than camaraderie; it is less a club, more a way of life. MC patches cannot be bought, only earned, a process that can take many years. To be accepted by an MC you have to be prepared to give up everything and anything and make the good of the club your number one priority.

MC members wear a three part-back patch, sometimes sewn directly onto a jacket but usually on a leather or denim cut-off. The club name appears at the top on a curved bar known as a rocker. The club colours are in the centre while a bottom rocker will name the territory. Prospective members wear only the bottom rocker as a mark of their reduced status.

The major MCs also sport a diamond shaped patch with ‘1%’ inside on the front of their colours. This originates from a massive drunken riot that followed a 1947 drag race meeting attended by thousands of bikers in the small town of Hollister, California. In the aftermath the organisers, the American Motorcycle Association, said the trouble had been caused by a small minority and that ninety-nine per cent of those who attended had been well behaved. The riot went on to inspire the Marlon Brando film ‘The Wild One’ and MC gangs have called themselves ‘one percenters’ ever since.

It is impossible to overstate the importance of a set of patches to an MC member. They are his most prized possession and the loss of them under almost any circumstances is an unbearable disgrace. Patches are absolutely sacred and it is no exaggeration to say that MC members consider them worth fighting for and, if necessary, dying for.

With painfully few exceptions – such as when two new clubs emerge from an unclaimed area at roughly the same time – no new MC will ever wear a bottom rocker laying claim to an occupied area unless they are prepared to declare outright war on the current incumbents.

(When the Mongols MC launched in the early 1970s, their members wore a ‘California’ bottom rocker much to the annoyance of the Hell’s Angels who not only dominated the west coast state but also considered it sacred: the gang had been founded there in the aftermath of World War Two. The Angels warned the Mongols to remove the rocker. The Mongols, composed mostly of Hispanics who had been refused entry to the HA on account of their race, stood their ground. It took 17 years and dozens of murders on both sides before the Angels eventually agreed to a compromise.)

The 1% MC gangs not only control their territory but also, to some or other degree, oversee the activities of all other biker clubs within their area.  Nothing happens without their say so and any potential threat to their superiority, no matter how small, is dealt with harshly.

If you have any doubts that this is indeed the case, I suggest you try the following experiment: gather together a group of male friends (women are generally not allowed to join back patch clubs), equip yourselves with large motorcycles – ideally Harley Davidson’s – and choose a club logo. Stitch your colours to the back of a leather jacket with the name of your club above and the name of your county or state below.

Hold elections to appoint a President, Vice President, Secretary, Treasurer and Sergeant-At-Arms (responsible for club discipline) then go out riding as a group and get yourselves seen by as many people as possible.

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Within days, possibly within hours, you and your friends will be intercepted by the massed ranks of whichever MC club is dominant in your area. If you are lucky and show sufficient reverence – that is, if they feel you can drink and party and fight and fuck with the best of them – they will invite you to a meeting at their clubhouse, explain the error of your ways, request that you stop wearing your patches (or charge you a hefty weekly fee in return for permission to wear an altered version) and then lay out the rules for your future conduct.

Far more likely, however, is that you and your friends will be stomped and beaten and chain whipped to a pulp, your patches and possibly even your bikes will be confiscated. Your arms or legs will be broken (to prevent you riding) and you will be told in no uncertain terms that your little club no longer exists. Period. The patches will be burned and the bikes stripped down for spares or resold. And if you even consider going to the police, you’ll just make an enemy of every other MC in the world and instantly prove that you didn’t have what it takes to make it in the scene anyway.

This scenario becomes even more certain if the dominant club in your area is one of the big three international gangs: the Hell’s Angels, the Outlaws or the Bandidos, or if you attempt to use a ‘protected’ colour combination: red on white for the Angels, black on white for the Outlaws, red on yellow for the Bandidos. Copying the designs of one of the big gangs would bring even more trouble – all three are trademarked and protected by international copyright law.

The issue of showing appropriate respect to an MC applies even when it is crystal clear that the other club is in no way any kind of a threat. In August 2010 a sixty-three-year-old bike-riding preacher from Altoona, Pennsylvania was beaten and robbed by members of the Animals MC after failing to seek permission to wear a back patch which featured a red cross on a white background along with the words: ‘Shield of Faith Ministries’.

In the UK the Brothers of the Third Wheel (BTW) go to great pains to point out that they are an association, not a club, for trike riders. They have many female members, revel in a family atmosphere and have never been involved in any form of conflict. Following careful negotiations their members are allowed to wear a symbol on their backs because the 1% clubs have designated it a badge, not a patch. Despite this the Hell’s Angels have forbidden BTW members from wearing their badges anywhere in Kent.

Such rules exist because an MC has to be seen to be the dominant club in the area it controls and the best way to do this is to ensure that no other club ever wears their colours there without permission. When clubs fail to follow this rule, wars start and all too quickly escalate out of control.

‘Outlaws: Inside the Violent World of Biker Gangs’ by Tony Thompson is published by Hodder & Stoughton at £12.99


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Fascinating. Makes Sons of Anarchy just that little bit more enjoyable to watch.

 

This guy has no clue what he is talking about. Sounds like he watched gangland and is trying to pose like he is an expert! FYI there is Hispanics in the Hells angels stupid and have been for 45 years!

 

Yes and there were whites that helped form the Mongols!

 

I really think that some of you guys need to read up on the Angels, Sonny Barger, Little Jim and Co. These boys didn’t mess about – and in some cases still don’t. The Angels way became the way for all hard core biker groups even if they may not admit it. Mongols, Asphalt Apaches, Attila’s Brood, Satan’s Slaves, Bandidos, Coffin Cheaters… Lovely lads to take home to meet mum. Knew a few hard core guys from my time in the US – fine as long as you didn’t cross them or some how annoy them. One wannabe drove a Kwaka 1000 onto the front lot of a bar called Crazy Horse. Went out in a body bag. Crime? Wasn’t riding a US machine… Makes you think. And by the way Edward I’d really wind my neck in over this if I was you. You don’t know what your fucking with… I’m not being smart or stuff like that but honest. These guys don’t take prisoners if you know what I mean…

 

The BTW item also goes for HAMC Northants and BTW tried to open a UK Nomads section and NO UK charter accepts them. The system in the UK is well policed by the club with the MC clubs often setting up loacl alliance’s so clubs support each other.

Basically if you have to ask you will not understand.

 

Again, interesting article. Couple of things though – the book might be good but if you want to read a really good book on the subject try Hunter S Thompson’s Hell’s Angels – that is a real eye opener. Also, and again this is blatant promotion for a book not an article that has been written for sabotage times on its own. Enjoyable all the same. Couple of last thoughts – should James Brown think about a couple of new sub headings for Crime etc? And should we have one for book experts? Thoughts? Cheers, M.

 

scott if you knew anything about or had been part of the 1% culture you would know that is exactly why the mongols were formed

 

Liverpool john. Mongols were formed by white guys and turned into a mainly Hispanic club. U have no clue what ur talking about. Idiot

 

There are Hispanic members of Hells Angels today, such as Cesar Villagrana, an Angel who was charged with murder, etc, in the shootout with Vagos at the Nugget. Sure, majority is non-Hispanic white, but just saying, there are some today. Mongols has many Hispanic, and also non-Hispanic white. I don’t think either accepts black/African-descent members however.

 

I grew up with bikers all all round my neighbourhood. We are talking the 90s, crazy shit. When the Hells Angels came to Ottawa, to the Outlaws Clubhouse the neighbourhood started getting better. One of the H A guys bought my friends mom a car and with that car she brought like 5 kids to football 4 times a week and employed people at the bookstore. They also took us to wrestling and helped out with money for the people who needed it. They are like Modern Day Robin Hoods. I haven’t met a mean biker to this day. So the bikers, are not always what you see on sons of anarchy lol

 

What a bunch of drama queens! What a bunch of self-righteous twits! The ability to wear a daft badge on your back doesn’t mitigate riding overweight underpowered crap. Do they feel that insecure in themselves that they feel the need to threaten people with violence? Man up, you faggots!

 

Just to clarify from a female back patch bikers point of view that the scene for woman has progressed. There are female MC’s and even WMCC back patch sactioned club in the UK all of which can hold there own.

 

Teflon, you dick. Spouting off behind the safety of the web, I think your the faggot. the type of self righteous up his own a*se twit who likes to deride others intrests and beliefs and call people Faggots. Never let any biker know who you are, or reality might be a little scarier than your safe little internet world.

 

Teflon sucks cock!

 

I bet the Blue Knights have had no trouble for patching up ?

 

Instead of listening to arguments on here, if you’re unclear about what patch/badge you can wear in your area, just go ask your local MC club. They won’t bite your head off for trying to do the right thing.

 

Not all MCCs are the same. Ours is run more traditionally. I’ve been prospecting in mine for over 6 months. I will get the full patch set when the whole club vote unanimously, probably after a year or so. I did not pay to join and patches most definitely are NOT available to “anyone who turns up”. What a load of shit. I was invited after hanging around for a while and knowing one of the members for about ten years. More than one member is an ex-one percenter and we maintain good relations with that club. I can assure you that we are not the only non-MC like this. We are close-knit and it is more than just turning up to a rally. I know this doesn’t apply to all MCCs, but they are all different, that’s all I’m trying to explain. A bit more research before sweeping generalisations methinks.

 

Between MC and MCC/RC are Brotherhood clubs – back patch and side. If you talk about the hierarchy, include all levels.
W.F.F.W.

 

I have rode with several out law clubs in SO. Cal., 35 years ago. I have noticed the center patch of the HA has changed, the fangs have been removed, and the mouth is sewn shut. I know why, but I was wondering when this happened. some one out there must know?

 

when did the center patch, (skull with wing) change? the mouth used to be open with fangs, and now ,it is sewn shut. what year did they change that center patch?
thanks for an answer.

 

what a load of crap this guy dont have a clue,i would like to see him try to buy one of my clubs patches,he would come away with it tattooed on his ass and then cut off with a rusty razor,what a plank.

 

1st why would anyone be proud to be in a outlaw gang. Any idiot can take the wrong path in life vs. doing good. I always prided myself on being an athlete and treating people with respect. Problem with this country is that someone would actually be proud of being a 1% percenter. Keep your patches and your criminal records.

 

Seems to me that a lot of people on here have got no idea what they are talking about. As an ex member of Outlaws MC I could tell you here a story or 2, but that is exactly what I am NOT going to do. However, If you see a guy with a backpatch, treat him with respect, and you will receive the same. Disrespect him, and he will break you in pieces, no matter who you are, what you are, and where you are. If you beat him up today you will stand against his brothers tomorrow. That’s the way it works.
If the guy you meet wears the 1% patch, respect him and he will respect you, but do not EVER trust him because he has a whole different agenda, and in these times riding his bike with his brothers, has become second to ‘doing business’.
And last but surely not least, Because the biker does wear his cut (patch) does not mean he is not a biker for the day.
Show his the respect he deserves, he has endured a lot, risked a lot, and shown a lot of courage and strength to get his patch, and has to do so every day again to keep his patch!
Marc 1%er Outlaws MC

 

Curtesy is most always given !

Respect must be earned first not given freely or because one wears a patch !

Fear just breeds contempt!

 

Thats the way its always been in uk too. MCC= Motorcycle Club. MC=Motor club.Even MC clubs in Europe cant ride here with back patches on. If the Road Rats dont get ya on the A2, the Angels will at your party.

 

After reading everyones comments, i just want to say this,
Hells Angels are the biggest saddest raisist thugs of all times , they wear a patch ride a bike, and think they run the world, cant wait untill its all taken from them , and how smug will they look then . if your one of them or supporting them, grow up and except they are just dirty thugs, in the same pot as rapists dealers and murderers. who get drunk and think they are better and bigger thsn GOD !!! jokers more like haha

 

What’s ironic is that ne of the reasons why the 1 percenters formed their clubs to escape societies rules, yet they have more rules among themselves and even impose a sepratate set of rules on those outside the group (citizens). They are more a dictatorship than many governments.

 

Mike Baily. The artile is pretty right on. YOur little MCC may be different than the norm, but MOST of the MCCs pass out patches as easily as the article mentions. YOu;re going to sew it to their ass adn then cut it off? LOL. Yeah…right….give it your best. I’m certain you’d get a little surprise.

 

PirateDemon- Id like to say to counter your comment that I grew up as a kid around Angels and they were some of the loveliest, most trustworthy people I have ever met, and do copious amounts of work for children’s charities as well as other charities and for families in need. Do you really have a reason to state what you say or are you going by media portrayal?

 

mc or mcc seeing 100′s of bikers cruisin together looks cool as f***k !!!

 

that book is pathetic, seems to say nothing about the motorcycle clubs they belong to all deal with prostitution, extorhion, , money and drugs.
noisy shitbike harleys , when ever someone has a harley and they go to get petrol , FOR SOME UNKNOWN REASON , THEY PUT THE BIKE NEAR THE BOWSER, AN WHILE ITS STILL RUNNING AND MAKING THAT LOUD THUMPING NOISE, THEY SLOWLY GET OF THE BIKE , TAKE THEIR HELMET OF, THEN TAKE THEIR GLOVES OF, LOOK AT THEIR BIKE ALL THE TIME WHILE ITS RUNNNING THEN TURN IT OF, CAUSE THEY WANT EVERYONE TO KNOW , OH, LOOK I GOT A HARLEY.

ALL THOSE GANGS ARE ONLY TOUGH WHEN THEY ALL IN A GROUP , CAUSE THEY HAVE SMALL DICKS AND ARE SHIT SCARED BY THEM SELVES.

 

I grew up in and around the biker scene in oshawa from the early 80,s till present and seen first hand how they run shit .bikers are modern day robin hoods but mess with them there women bikes or money n your good as dead.but for the most part they are ordinary ppl like you.an
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If you ask me , wich you havent, i think its aload of rubbish, its a load of bullys who cant beseen as real men, so they form a back patch to look good, you look like what you are THUGS!

 

and for the record i was not going by media! ok they do a bit of charity, to make themselfs look good! aww look the HA cant be that bad they raise money for children, help funds to repare schools, makes me feel worried!It doesnt change what they really are, oh look what i trodded on ? ok i love bikes i love the freedom you feel on one, but i would sooner spit on any HA than support them! they are scum and look like ass wholes, i see them going and coming from cadieshead greater manchester uk, and i just think what a bunch of idiots with patches, couldnt get in the army so joined the next big thing, hahaha, in a way its an insult to the soilders who fight for what is right, not a bunch of crims who Rape ,Murder AND Steal, there all thifs. dirty cheating low life thugs, how about that ? freedom of speach! most of them have more whores than morrals!

 

And i have never heard of HA helping familys ??? maybe helping themselfs to what is not theres to take !
they are so good that ALOT of countrys are pushing them out ! soon will be time to say GOOD bye to thugs on bikes who think they are GOD oh sorry its the DEVIL they think they are hahaha. good riddens for the time the HELLS ANGELS out and prisoned for wearing the patch !!

 

I have a tatoo of the scull and wings the HA logo, at the top it says ROTT and the bottom of it says IN HELL.
see AND SINCE I WOULDNT DATE A HA, not much chance of that being seen haha and they dont own the colours ,

 

Heyy PirateDemongirl Us Angels WOnt Ever Be Shut Down Or Ever End No Matter What Anyone Trys To Do Ride Or Die And No Fear In My Heart And See What Hsppens If U Show That Tattoo To An Angel lol Stupid Cunt. Im Proud To Earn My Strips,Color,& Patch 88 Hiel Hitler 666 White Power! im 5150 and its all over me ill take anyones life if they fucks with my family or brothers or fellow angels its how i was raised im the devils son the Anti-Christ bitch hahahaha

 

I’m 58 yrs old, and I have many friends who are bikers. Showing respect for a club, and/or it’s colors is just being cool. It’s like letting loose with a good smile, or a warm handshake. Families care for one another, and so do bikers. I will not hesitate to help anyone on a scoot, or anyone else for that matter. I believe that joy is created when we care for others,
Keep the shiny side up, and the oily side down, ride on….

 

I agree with Scott. It is far better to keep your mouth shut and look a fool, then to open it and remove all doubt.

 

I’ll take all you mothers down and plough you in on my groovy scooter OK? Much respect

 

Oye piratedemon dyke.If you feel so strongly about the H.A.M.C. why dont you pop along to their Manc club house and voice your objections.Im sure they would give you a fair hearing.Witch is more than you are doing,hideing behind the Internet.Regards/Respect Mick.

 

I’m not sure why anyone is making any comments about Motorcycle Clubs. Unless you are a member (in which case you tend not to discuss the club with anyone but the club) the MC’s have no interest in outsiders lives unless you show no respect. Which quite a few of you are doing. If you can’t accept them don’t get involved. They’ll survive with or without the bad press. Oh and the deaths head is under copyright so be very careful about using it.
Regards and respect to all those who deserve it, Bad Dave.

 

@ kingkahuuna

very interesting point of view

;)

 

at kingkahuuna

very interesting ;)

 

Were is ye liverpool clubhouse ye reckon u got a chapter ere why dont u come out and show us were u are saw 2of u lot ride through town surrounded by sportsbikes in and out not weary are ye haha just remember liverpool is charlies turf and always has been theta are x members and supporters everywere watchin out for ye liverpool is scouse and no fat mancs in cowboy boots is comin ere ye wont get liverpool without a fight red. Weve got out eyes on lark lane georgie lad.

 

Scott ye wanna call me a idiot why not come out from behind your fuckin keybord. john 1%er outlaws mc liverpool england.

 

Very interesting comments whole lot of disrespect going on which is par for course when you can talk smack from behind a computer screen. MC’s are not gangs 1st of all, second members work hard for that back patch and they earn it. You want to disrespect them while sitting in your comfy little house great, but not one of you would walk up to one and repeat what you have said here to their face.

Boozefighter Fu-Man

 

I’m reading this guy’s book right now and it’s full of hilarious howlers. I especially like the part where the Outlaws are in a green SUV *wearing their colors* while they shoot a rival biker, and that’s how they’re ID’ed *to the law by the patch holder * who witnessed the crime.

That’s right- bikers wear cuts in a cage while doing criminal stuff in full public view at the same time. That’s how real villains roll.

I think this book is fucking phony.The writer had a bunch of newspaper headlines about MC’s and strung them together into this fake narrative about “Snake Dog” in order to sell more copies. This book is like James Frey writing about gangs. Fake.

At least Jerry Langton packaged his books as fiction first. They’re a lot more accurate too.

Fun to read, though!

 

Hung out at the double zero club with some very heavy mothers spent time in so cal .rode bikes for 45 yrs the only real angels were berdoo , Oakland , San Fran all the rest ‘nothing to do with outsiders ,freedom ,brotherhood ,money rules now and has done for 40 yrs ,loan biker and all ways will ,don’t have to answer to no one

 
 

Don’t even pretend to put anything resembling a Rocket on your vest or jacket. No 1% Diamonds either. And if you encounter real MC members be respectful and don’t call them Brother or Bro, you aren’t and won’t be either.

 

Big thanks to our supporters and friends who contacted us yesterday on sighting 81 probate in the berry bold st area still dont know were there going so be vigalant OFFO.

 

Sporty 12 you obviously dont know what ur talkin about sometimes its better to keep ur mouth shut

 

FUCK 81, 15, And anyone else !!! Hahaha

 

wow, PirateDemonGirl.

It’s a good job I’m not 81 aint it. Less than 2 minutes of interwebbery provided me with a picture of you. The postcode area you live in. And a few other details about you. Now, armed with your picture and the fact that you know where the Cadishead Clubhouse is worries me that you don’t actually care for yourself. A little more research shows that you know the Black Pistons MC, and that you’re from Eccles, Manchester. Well, this has just narrowed it down a bit for me! It wouldn’t be too hard for someone with a little more time, or a grudge, to find you. And I wouldn’t need to go far around Manchester, I expect; My guess that I could ask around in the town hall tavern, and I’d probably be able to find you in a night or two.

Maybe shouting off on the internet – no matter HOW much of a keyboard warrior you are, and how well you THINK you’ve hidden your identity – isn’t the best idea you’ve ever had. And I’m sorry; I’m not in HA, or ANY other 1%er MC, or even an MCC. But I do know some. I even work with some. I go to rallies with some. I drink with some. And they are respectable, respectful, and charitable for the most part (piss them off and find the other extreme). And I think what you’ve wrote is downright asking to get buried. Now, I won’t be giving any more information about you out (nothing I’ve said couldn’t be found online anyway), but if someone were to read on here and use the information and their common sense (doesn’t make sense for a club that needs to demonstrate power to allow a 42year old -according to some profile – GIRL, with a mouth like a Gob on a Stick, to go round shouting her mouth off about them.) But I am leaving this lot up. Kinda in the hope that just the fact that they could get even just a little information about you will shut you up and stop you mouthing off about them.

One of the things that they possess, that you seem not to have? Common Sense. 99% of the 1%ers know WHEN to shut their mouths and back away from something so that they can come back when the odds are tipped more in their favour – that aint gonna happen to you, trust me, just shhhhhhh! Quiet time!

 

Dear Liverpool John, you obviously don’t know what the hell you’re talking about, then you deem that Sporty 12 doesn’t know what he’s talking about? Well I agree with him, your reply to him is very strange to me. Any real 1%er would see this is all bullshit. And your earlier comment about the Mongols was way fucking off. Follow your own advice douchebag.

 
 

Growing up my family was involved with ABATE of Indiana this gave me many opportunities to interact not only with members of the local Hells Angels but quite a few of the other clubs that were in the area. I have seen members of MC’s do random acts of kindness. I’m not a supporter of the one percenter lifestyle but i will say that all of them i have ever dealt with have been respectful and at times even helpful. For most of my highschool years i took photographs of the ABATE events in my area. Upon my fathers advice i always asked the members of any MC that might be in a photograph that i wanted to take for their permission before taking the shot. It was not untill my last year of going to the events that i was given permission to take a picture with any of the members of HA in it. To my surprise that year i was aked to photograph all of the members at the local MDA Ride. For me that will always be a intersting memory i was about 19 at the time and fully aware of some of the activities of the MC’s and at the same time there was a sense of accomplishment because at the time i wanted to be a photojournalist and i must have earned at least a little of their respect for the club to ask me to include them in the pictures that year. The one thing i took away from that day is that no matter who you are dealing with respect cannot work against you. After all the only way to earn true respect is to give it.

 

Oh no, just a bit of respect goes a long way. My old mc in the uk was persuaded by HAMC UK to merge peacefully and we agreed. The HA philosophy is along way from what most social clubs can cope with and don’t mess with away you don’t understand. Nice guys but if you can’t or won’t fully commit then bow out gracefully – they will support you entirely and there won’t be any tears. Respect all round…

 

readin all these comments has been entertaining, all these keyboard warriors that know nuthin has cheered me up,

end of the day respect 1% and it will be given back

dont know wat your talkin about , shut the fuck up

peace

 

Respect is earned and returned not given,
Spot on Ralph 55 respect.

 

WELCOME TO VALHALLA MC MERSEYSIDE GOOD LUCK IN THE FUTURE BROTHERS JOHN 1%er OUTLAWS MC LIVERPOOL GOOD BYE TO ROCKER REBELS MCC {NORTHWEST ALLIANCE} LIVERPOOL HAS AND ALWAYS WILL BE BLACK AND WHITE NO COWBOY BOOTS HERE KID SCOUSE TO THE MAX.

 

THANKS FOR THE INFO WE NOW KNOW WERE THERE GOING WELL SPOTTED AND TO THE LITTLE NUGGET WHO WANTS TO SLAG ME OFF BEHIND YE KEYBOARD WHY NOT COME AND SAY IT TO MY FACE IM EASY TO FIND IN THIS CITY IM NOT HIDING KID OR WHY NOT KNOCK ON THE CLUBHOUSE DOOR IF YE KNOW SO MUCH ABOUT THE BIKER WORLD LIKE YE THINK YE DO U WILL KNOW WHERE WE ARE YE FUCKIN NUMPTY

 

the only ones I feel bad for is the women and little girls of these clubs who are beaten, passed around, raped and forced into prostitution.
that’s all these guys know how to do is treat women and little girls like shit.
several women were seen being sold, traded, and beaten by these guys.
there was an ol lady who one night had to comfort a teenage girl who was worried that she would be killed if she didn’t make money as a prostitute that night. she was never seen again.
that same ol lady was forced to work as a topless dancer and when she danced for a black man, and as punishment her so called “man” told her she could either “pull a train” or be punched in the face five times by different members.

if women say no to them they get beat and raped.
women are nothing to them, they are to be traded, sold , bought and passed around against their will

 

The outlaws are so scouse there clubhouse is in birkenvegas plastic scousers valhalla lick each others assholes I’d come all the way over to birkenhead but I’m too busy living in liverpool it isn’t 60s no more aload of skallies would mince yous for a fiver.

 

Another gutless keyboard wanker.

 

WELL KID IM A SCOUSER LIVE IN LIVERPOOL YE FUCKIN LITTLE NOBHEAD BET UR FROM ST HELENS YE LITTLE WOOL AND IF YE KNEW ANYTHING U WOULD KNOW MERSEYSIDE HAS 2 CHAPTERS ONE IN BIRKENHEAD AND ONE IN NORTH LIVERPOOL WHO BOTH HAVE CLUBHOUSES BUT YE WOULDNT KNOW THAT COZ YE TO BUSY IN ST HELENS EATIN PIES

 

KEYBOAERD WANKER DO U KNOW HOW EASY IT IS TO FIND SOMEONE THROUGH THERE IP ADRESS UR NOT AS ANONYMOUS AS U WOULD LIKE TO THINK FOOD FOR THOUGHT

 

HA HA CHRISTY YOU HAVE SOME FANTASY YOU OBVIOUSLY READ TO MANY BOOKS AND WATCH TO MANY BIKER DOCUMENTARYS DONT YOU KNOW THERE ARE BLACK 1%ERS IN ENGLAND TODAY BUT IM EAGER TO KNOW DID SHE TAKE FIVE PUNCHES OR GO FOR THE OTHER OPTION I BET IT WAS THE LATTER

 

Hi, are you any relation to hunter Thompson or Jaden “Kaden” Thompson who lives in the midlands area, he is apparently the nephew of hunter thompson.

 

Omg RatBikeRider love that you threw it out there!!!! I’m one of the few who won’t hide my name. I would never hide what I’ve done or who I am. I think cowards only hide behind the internet and fake names. I’m Nikki and I’m proud of it. If you don’t like who I am then don’t talk to me. For any of you who talk shit it’s obvious you’ve never been around anyone who rides a motorcycle. Just becuz they roll on two wheels and not 4 wheels don’t mean their any different. And most of u who are talking shit is cuz u were not accepted by a Club or just can’t roll on two wheels. And no I’m not with a patch member but I do have family that do wear a patch (no not a Hell’s Angles patch) but I agree…..all MC’s do good for communities and just cuz they accept people outside of blood and call them family doesn’t make them bad or wrong. I think all u people who talk shit behind the internet are the most cowardly people I’ve ever known and if u disagree then m plz fee free to post who u really are and plz don’t say it’s cuz “bikers” don’t post their real names….the names they post are the names their FAMILY calls them by. Just quit being jealous.

 

Oh and FYI MC’s are NOT called gangs nor does any smart person consider them a gang. Come on now people USE YOUR BRAINS!!!!

 

Come on 1% are you kidding me outlawbiker whats does that mean how can you break societys rule wear a patch and never been to college or school so go to school and never come home,I ride bikes but a patch doesnt mean you deserve respect,Ive put alot of work in alot of outlaw bikers havent even been threw the justice system to earn a patch is an alligeance to the club 8 months to 1 year doing what watching bikes getting your sponsor a beer give me a break 99% of you cant even fight you cant be a outlaw unless you been to schoolor college you can act like a bad ass and act tuff but its not what is on the outside that counts its the heart fuck a patch holder if a cop can get a patch without busting a grape so could anyone elsebreaking the law violent acts is all bullshit clubs exist on the street you see very few bikers in jail very few and I been in and out jails since i was 12 yrs old and got out at 50 years old Im a real Outlaw you fake ass 1% who never been to school can all kiss my white peckerwood ass

 

Nikki your right there not gangs there clubs you wana know why gangs are jumpin jump out bloodinbloodout you dont bust a grape getting to be a club memberlaw enforcement knows that the Hells Angels ,Mongols,Vagos,Outaws all 1%OMC’s have had pigs become members by acting hardcore anyone can act tuff being tuff is another storyIf they were gangs they wouldnt of been able to infiltrate them because know law enforcement officer is going to committ any Violent acts or break any laws,to become a full patch member,that is why they are CLUBS in gangs you get beat out or snuffed out you cant check out cause you dont wana play club member anymore a club you can part from the start,you dont have to committ any crimes to get in beat anyone up or most OMC’s would be in jail and there not some yes many know see you clowns can fool the public society is also fool but real gangsters are not real gangsters all go to college or some sort of schoolOMC’sdonot but there clubs not gangs…bumperjack,I support 81 but I dont ride anyones nuts on others reputationsI put in more work than most and many and many is plenty I know the truth so why isnt the truth out there,earning a patch takes time but no physical beat ins beat ups bloodinbloodoutjumpin or jumpoutif you want out you give your cut back colors patch you want out of a real gang they beat your fuckingass,so dont be on here lieing u dirty no good dogs…bumperjack

 

Gangs are not clubs,gang members go to school(jail) or College is what the Italin Mob refers to how can you be an Outlaw and not go to jail many times in your career what is the difference between a criminal and outlaw?

 

Woh RatBikeRider that shut her up – Big Respect Mate

 

RECKLESS ANGEL I GUESS YOU BEEN TO SCHOOL 14/88 WEISS MACHT BRUDER,WE EARN OUR BOLTS WERE EARN OUR SPOT IN THE CAR PECKERWOODS TILL THE WHEELS FALL OFF WE WERE INK THAT IS EARNED THEM PATCHS ARE TEMP…IF YOU DIDNT PUT ANY REAL WORK IN FOR IT YOU DIDNT EARN IT THE REAL WAY IN OUR EYES WE SEE IT AS A ALLIGEANCE YOU PLEDGE YOUR CLUB THAT ONE DAY YOU MIGHT HAVE TO DEFEND THAT DEATHEAD WITH YOUR LIFE WE ARE NOT GIVEN OUR BOLTS ON A PROMISE WE HAVE TO BOOK A NIGGER TO EARN THEM,ALL POLITICAL INK IS EARNED IN INSTITUTIONS OR ON THE STREETS WE EARN OUR POSITION IN OUR CARS,WE HAVE NEVER BEEN INFILTRATED BECAUSE NO ATF AGENT IS GOING TO COMMITT ANY ACTS OF VIOLENCE OR COMMITT ANY CRIMES AND THEY PACTCHED UP IN ARIZONA AFTER FUCKING WITH THE CLUB FOR 2YEARS SO DID HE ACTUALLY EARN THAT PATCH I SERIOUSLY DONT THINK SO RECKLESS ANGEL NOW THAT 88 HEIL HITLER SWASTIKA’S AND LIGHTING BOLTS ARE FOR LIFE THERE TATTOED ON YOU,GANGS ARE PHYSICAL IN AND PHYSICAL OUT THATS EARNING YOUR WAY IN AND YOUR WAY OUT A PROMISE,AND ALLIGEANCE TO A CLUB OR INSIGNIA IS NOT EARNING SOMETHING THEY CAN TAKE FROM YOU IF YOU DONT FOLLOW THE BY LAWS RULES OR IF YOU PLAN ON QUITING CAUSE YOU DONT WANT TO DANCE BY THE CLUBS POLITICS ANYMORE,MY POPS WAS A ANGEL OUT OF OAKLAND,CALIFORNIA IN 1957 WHEN THE CLUB WAS STARTED I CAN SAY I PUT MY WORK IN AND EARNED EVERY STRIPE,STAR,AND BARS,SO ALL YOU FOOLS OUT THERE THAT DONT REALLY KNOW SHIT ABOUT CLUBS OR GANGS STAY THE FUCK OUT OF THE POLITICAL PART OF IT, CAUSE YOU DONT KNOW UNLESS YOU BEEN THERE AND DONE AND MOST OF THESE OMC DONT KILL ANYONE TO EARN A PATCH THEY DONT HAVE TO BEAT ANYONE DOWN TO EARN ANY PATCH OR COMMITT ANY ACTS OF VIOLENCE TO EARN THAT PATCH,YES IT TAKES TIME DEDICATION,AND A ALLIGEANCE TO EARN THAT PATCH BUT TO US PECKERWOOD SOLDIERS THATS NOT EARNING YOUR BONES WHICH IS OUR PATCH OF HONOR,A SOLDIER FIRST HAS TO LEARN HOW TO FIGHT HAND TO HAND COMBAT,THEN HE HAS TO LEARN HOW TO USE WEAPONS SO ASK YOURSELF HOW MANY PATCH HOLDERS CAN FIGHT FIRST LINE OF DEFENSE YOU CANT ALWAYS GET TO A WEAPON,THATS WHAT IAM TALKING ABOUT, HAD A AND FRIEND AND HOMEBOY WHO PATCHED UP WITH THE BIG BAD VAGOS22 IN 8 MONTHS AND WE HAD A ISSUE WITH THE BLACKS IN THE KITCHEN OF OF A PRISON CAMP YES WE WERE IN PRISON SO ME BEING LARGE AND IN CHARGE OF 200 WHITE BOYS SHOTCALLER HAD TO WATCH HIS BACK SO WE ENTERED OUR TAKE CARE OF BUSINESS SPOT AND THAT VAGO COULDNT FIGHT AT ALL HE GOT TOUCHED UP BY THE TOAD AND I THREW THE TOWEL IN HE GOT HIS LIPS AND JAW BUSTED UP END OF STORY DID HE HAVE TO PHYSICALLY EARN THAT PATCH DONT THINK SO CAUSE IF YOU CANT FIGHT IF IT WAS MY CLUB YOU WOULDNT GET A PATCH SO DONT SUGARCOAT THAT EARNING A PATCH CRAP CAUSE ITS NOT EARNED IN THE CLUB WORLD YES ITS EARNED IN THE REAL OUTLAW WORLD ITS NOT EARNED ITS A PROMISE AND ALLIGEANCE YOU WONT RUN FROM A FIGHT OR YOUR ENEMY OR LEAVE YOUR BROTHER HANGING IN A ALTERCATION ITS NOT MORE THEN PROMISES,TIME AND A VOTE,THEN YOU MIGHT HAVE TO FIGHT TO KEEP IT IF YOU KNOW HOW TO FIGHT,666SIN FEIN OURSELVES ALONE 14/88 SYL/12

 

Whatever I have been, whoever I rode with, you will never get to know what goes on from the press or internet. Motorcycle Clubs are a sub culture and we like our privacy. Joe public has nothing to fear as long as he does nothing wrong. Respect goes a long way. Upset one and upset the Club. Not for everybody, but standing on the terraces watching 22 people kick a ball is either. Whatever your position, don’t kick a hornets nest and you wont get stung.

 

Excuse me folks I don’t want to bump into anyone’s arguments here but I was just wondering what happened to the Outcasts MC? I know there was a tragedy years ago and I know some chapters went to the Outlaws MC but i swear I saw an Outcast the other day with his mauve coloured rockers. Just wondered if certain groups were still going or perhaps they started back up again. Respects, Sid.

 

Subculture,that law enforcement has infiltraited,boso a hornets nest yes they come in number because without them they have no power,Lets get real cowards run in packs…

 

Sure bumperjack. All the way. Could not agree with you more. Of course when you meet the exception on his own and rips your throat out. Now go and play. MC’s, whether you are from one side or the other are a way of life that I like. You choose yours and be happy.

 

SYLO Ontario Canada OFFO

 

So is this guy wrong then about wearing a non-gang/MC Back patch? I am a member of a small group of people from all over. Not even a gang or MC just kind of a group. but I have my back patch sewed on to the back of my riding vest. Just has a wolfs head with wolfknives above it, sort of in a rocker style. Along with like 30 other band patches. I don’t intend to start shit or disrespect other MC riders in the area. This is in edmonton ab , if anyone in real MC could give me some insight as to if this is disrespectful or not , I would appreciate it.

 

Nobby, there are exceptions to every rule,Disrespect can and will get you killed? if only you disrespect someone who is capable of ripping your throat out Nobby,and it isnt you behind a keyboard,I have friends in MC’s both female and male I know the real deal thats all the subculture is alot of posser’s shit Nobby you might be one it took 15 Vagos to try attacking me and 1 got knocked the fuck out stupid!!! you wouldn’t want to cross my path Nobody or Nobby so you can go play..

 

Mike if you can represent it fly it!!! If you can’t take it off,plain and simple!!! IF you can defend it, or represent it!!! then you have every right to fly it,Its really not that hard to figure out,I don’t belong to a club I belong to a Gang and will not Mention Who Im with but we are a big and well known Gang666 ABFFAB

 

I have met and even ridden with several 1%ers over the years. For the most part they were great guys. Show them respect and you will have few problems. Once in awhile tho you can offend without even meaning to. At times like those be quick – and sincere – with your apologies. Safe riding out there.

 

THERE WAS AN ANGEL CALLED TOBIN WHOS HEAD HAD A FUCKIN BIG HOLE IN,HE LAY ON THE ROAD LIKE AN OVERWEIGHT TOAD AND NO ONE THERE TO CONSOLE HIM

 

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