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Mick Jagger is the perfect rock star. There’s nobody more perfect than Jagger. He’s rude, he’s ugly-attractive, he’s brilliant. The Rolling Stones are the perfect rock group, they don’t give a fuck. - Elton John

The Rolling Stones are the most significant band (both musically and culturally) of our times, outdoing their only real rivals, and despite sometimes lacklustre output occasionally in recent times, (you can’t expect Let it Bleed every week) they have somehow weathered just about every possible storm, all the fads, trends, fashions, governments, controversies, deaths, drugs and social scenes  over the last 50 years, and still rock.

THE FACTS:

1.Quite simply, who is/was/will always be cooler? Is it just me who cringes when they wheel out Sir Paul Macca, at yet another royal bash to croon ‘Hey Jude’? Even Prince William looks like he wants to vomit.The Stones wouldn’t be seen dead within a mile of such toss, a tradition dating back to refusing to join the revolving roundabout circus at the end of Sunday Night at the Palladium. Guess who regularly did? In defence of the Beatles, decades later Jagger accepted a knighhood, but it’s no secret he had always aspired to be part of that circle.

2. From a different perspective, how many guitarists have tried to look like John Lennon, or George Harrison for that matter? So back to Image, Androgeny, Yep Iggy Pop, Bowie,  the New York Dolls, and countless others capitalised on it in the Seventies and up to this day, but only one person is responsible for bringing it to the masses, whilst admitting that many of his ideas came from Little Richard, and that the famous dance moves that even made Maroon 5 cool for a second, were copied from James Brown and Tina Turner. Not bad from a London school Of Economics student from Dartford, eh?

3. The ‘how to ruin your street cred in one foul swoop’ competition- pyschedelia,  pointy hats and magicians clothe sand hanging out with an Indian Guru womanising fraudster? The Beatles fell for it hook line and sinker, even Ringo. Mick went along with Marianne ‘who am I?’ Faithfull, and then promptly left, feeling just a teeny bit silly he’d been duped. Can we blame the acid? The Stones were also guilty, but let’s be fair, they WERE more stoned.

4. Sex:  Mick allegedly bummed Brian at the flat they were sharing in Edith Grove in the early days, just to get one over on the only one band member he felt jealous of and threatened by; he also shagged Brian’s girlfriend of the time. This type of behaviour continued later in the Swinging decade, Mick shagging Anita Pallenberg, Keith’s girlfriend, on the set of Performance, a gangster/mind fuck film starring Jagger and James Fox. but this also inadvertently helped create one of the most classic Stones albums ever. Keith immersed himself in Speedballs to numb his feelings about the goings on on the film set.. ‘Gimme Shelter’ a cry for help, is the best example, part of one of the truly greatest albums ever made: Let It Bleed. In the post-Beatles world, Ringo did however woo and marry Barbara Bach, so definite points for that. However, not enough, so in terms of chick quality The Stones thrash the Mop tops in the long run.

5. On the the flipside of ‘Gimme Shelter’ we have ‘Helter Skelter’;  a catchy tune, possibly misconstrued by certain people, The Beatles had a knack of attracting rather ‘out there’ characters, I had a childhood friend who even though still late teens, was obsessed with the Fab Four, we are talking 24 hours a day heavy rotation, and as he told me, ‘The Beatles send messages’ and yes, he went mental, I was with him Xmas eve 1979, the usual, Beatles non stop, the next day, during Christmas lunch, he excused himself, went up to his room and blew his head off with a shotgun whilst all the family were merrily munching away downstairs. Nice. Pointless really mentioning Charles Manson and Mark Chapman and George Harrison’s attacker. The Stones only really had Meredith Hunter at Altamont, who was basically stabbed and beaten to death by Hells Angels, the crime was not for a gun as sometimes reported, but a more simple scenario, he was black and was with a white girl. Most other people around the Stones died from drug overdoses, their lifestyle, their problem. You going to keep up with Keith?

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6. Next, being the best landlord in the world, I bring you once again Mr Richards. When you get in the rarified ((and unusual) world of where you can’t remember how many houses and apartments you have scattered around the world, you can find yourself giving loose directions and possibly keys to new found friends (or vaguely remembered old ones) to go and stay there, free of charge. Cheyne Walk, Chelsea was one such residence, Count Jean De Beautriell and Marianne Faithful, for instance; the Count is most fondly remembered as a heroin dealer and addict, woman beater, and being responsible for Jim Morrison’s death in Paris.  Stash, a drug fiend friend of Brian Jones also was a guest, along with Gram Parsons and anyone too stoned to remember where they lived.  Paul McCartney and John Lennon (in rare agreement) were alledgedly so wary of certain Stones and their acquaintances by 1969, they avoided them and the Chelsea set like the Plague, far too bourgeious. Later, Keef hosted the most lavish house party of all time at ‘Nellcote’ South of France, recording Exile… In an extremely rare lucid moment, he realised that literally dozens of people were living there, doing all his drugs, drinking all his booze and enjoying top quality nosh, seved up by his heroin dealer chef, so he presented people with a bill, hotel style. Funny, people weren’t clamouring to go and stay with Paul or George, ever.

7. Next, simple, Mick and my dad both went to Dartford Grammar, albiet in different years. A small point, but consider this. If Mick hadn’t excelled at there, due to the high quality of teaching, ask my dad,  he wouldn’t have been accepted at the London School of Economics, which meant he wouldn’t have bumped into a certain Keith Richards, an old playground pal, at Dartford Train Station one morning. He wouldn’t have enquired about the bunch of records Mick was holding, import blues and R n’B from Chess Records. The rest, as they say…

8. Street cred again, Ned Kelly and Freejack, hmm, yeah dodgy, but vs ‘Give My Regards To Broad Street’, and the song that we shall never mention. And to finish, a certain narration of childrens books by a certain drummer about a particular form of transport? The Stones win hands down.

9. Fighting time: best in band scraps? Feuds, yes for both bands, but Stones wise, at one point in the early Eighties, as recalled by Keith, Mick had been drinking with him, and at some point early morning in an Amsterdam hotel, decided to phone Charlie Watts’s room, slurring ‘’is that my drummer? Get your arse down here now.” Charlie did not appreciate this, went down to Mick’s room after putting on one of his best Saville Row suits, and when the door was opened, casually said “I’m not your drummer, you’re my fucking singer” and punched him so hard, knocking him out, he nearly fell out the window. Keith has been known to try and kill Ronnie Wood on occasion, one for freebasing without his permission, another time for watching the boxing when he should have been jamming.

10.  Peace signs and or lying in a bed for ages made physical contact/violence easy to avoid for our lovable mop tops, thats not the way, c’mon!

11. Technically not the Beatles, but it is the worst song ever written: ‘Imagine’ This song is utterly horrible, sickly and a reflection of a miserable recluse holed up with a warbling mental in a plush New York department, refusing to see anybody, even Mick who only lived one block away. It makes ‘The Birdie Song’ sound cool.

12.Whilst Mr Lennon was busy proclaiming his working class roots, it appears he was from a middle class house in a respectable part of Liverpool. he then became famous for sarcastic and often pompously stupid remarks such as: ‘We’re as popular as Jesus right now….’‘and the favourite, whilst rapidly becoming a millionaire, ‘Will the people in the cheaper seats clap your hands? And the rest of you, if you’ll just rattle your jewelry.’

13. The legacy: er..The Waterboys, ELO, ‘All around the world’ Weller, jumping on the bandwagon when he realised Oasis liked him, the Travelling Wilburys, or…. Aerosmith, Quireboys, Black Crowes, Guns and Roses, The Faces, Johnny Thunders, The Charlatans, even The Clash. Mick Jones anyone?.

14. ‘No Rolling Stones in 77, no Sex Pistols in 78’ cackled Lord Keef, another lot been and gone. God knows where these whippersnappers got their ideas from, rebelling against the establishment, guitarists all clones of Keith! Nah, co-incidence!

15. I’m being a little too hard on Mr Lennon, who incidentally was murdered on my 10th birthday. He did write’Strawberry Fields’; fucking brilliant, but keeping in with the spirit of this article there has to be a retort: Candy Flip (in 1988) recorded a better version!!! Download it! Yes I will fry in hell for such a remark, see you there,

17. Keith and Paul met, in Jamacia, circa 2006; Paul knew the Stones’ guitarist had a house there somewhere, and in fact had to ask Keith’s neighbour, Bruce Willis, where he lived! Keith recounts that they had never especially talked before, even back when the Beatles helped out the Stones with a song back in the Edith Grove days, and both came to the realisation that the Beatles were always considered a more ‘vocal’ group, i.e. they could all sing, but the Stones were more a ‘musicians’ type group. Thats a bit of an admission from Sir Paul.

18. The Stones have Keith, who to face facts, is the living embodiment of all things Rock n’ Roll.

19. For financial advice about how not to lose half your fortune, Sir Mick is your man, a legendary tightwad, and financially astute, he even managed to prove his marriage to Jerry Hall wasn’t legitimate to save cash. The same cannot be said for another singer

20. In conclusion, the Stones are doing a 50 year celebration bunch of gigs, Sir Paul will continue, hopefully screaming out ‘Twist and Shout’ instead of bloody ‘Hey Jude’ Ringo will continue to do whatever a Ringo does, same with Bill Wyman, and the kids will worship K Pop and that new Asian song, never having to concern themselves with seemingly such trivial matters that some of us consider, and quite rightfully, so vastly important. But the Stones are still rocking and show no signs of going away, and thank Keef for that.

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DrRic 10:54 am, 8-Nov-2012

Not many of these reasons seem to be about the music, wonder why... Point 5 is also is shockingly bad taste - in what universe is the fact the Beatles music appealed to the odd nutjob worse than the Stones letting the Hells Angels beat the living shit out of a load of people?

Jimi Limpet 10:58 am, 8-Nov-2012

It's "one FELL swoop", not "foul".

Markxist 11:56 am, 8-Nov-2012

The truth at last :)

Jimmy James Jameson 12:10 pm, 8-Nov-2012

what a prize wanker this writer is. The content of this site has gone down the toilet along with the new design. "7. Next, simple, Mick and my dad both went to Dartford Grammar"... you fucking tit.

Rob 12:27 pm, 8-Nov-2012

How many guitarists tried to look like George? Well Keef in the early to mid 60s springs to mind.

The Baron 12:34 pm, 8-Nov-2012

Both shit.

Howard 12:53 pm, 8-Nov-2012

21. Body count

Charlie Twoshoes 1:33 pm, 8-Nov-2012

If the Beatles were around today they'd be a 'boy band' like Take That.

mart 3:06 pm, 8-Nov-2012

JJJ, another fucking troll, fucking brave behind your computer aren't you?, sticks and stones, difference is, I know Im not a cunt , so fuck you and fuck off, you fucking twat

mart 3:08 pm, 8-Nov-2012

and yes swearing at braindead morons like is you is justified

Marco Whirlwind 3:42 pm, 8-Nov-2012

Quite entertaining I thought - even if it does go slightly awry in places. But I can't help feeling the Stones might have been even better if Mick didn't spend most of his time impersonating seventy-year-old black Blues singers

mart 3:51 pm, 8-Nov-2012

Dr Ric,the Hells Angels were recommended by the grateful Dead, the Stones had no idea they would get so violent,cheap wine and acid, and they are hardly going to be handing out bibles are they? Get your facts straight before you slag off someone, or read some books, I'll send you a bibliography , but thats university talk, probably beyond you

Little Baby Everything 4:00 pm, 8-Nov-2012

'Androgeny', 'albiet', 'bourgeious', 'jewelry'.... bloody hell, I'm looking forward to reading your book Martin!

mart 4:03 pm, 8-Nov-2012

Thank you marco, we should just enjoy them whilst they are still here

mart 4:08 pm, 8-Nov-2012

well there's even longer words in that, probably all spelt wrong as well

Jimmy James Jameson 4:13 pm, 8-Nov-2012

Hit a nerve! You're article is shit and you're riposte shows you up for the illiterate buffoon that you are. No troll, just an honest comment.

mart 4:24 pm, 8-Nov-2012

not really, Im just pissed

mart 4:35 pm, 8-Nov-2012

wanking getting boring yeah?

The Baron 5:48 pm, 8-Nov-2012

Wanking's not boring for you is it Mart? As long as Mick n Keef are the subjects of your masturbation that is.

Markxist 7:26 pm, 8-Nov-2012

@DrRic there might not be many points about the music because it's obvious; the music of The Stones is far better than that of The Beatles. The music of The Stones is right there from the blues, its timeless. Hardly Maxwell's Silver Hammer is it? Point 17 says it all.

DrRic 7:34 pm, 8-Nov-2012

Yeah, well done, you totally missed my point. I wasn't having a go at the Stones for hiring the Hells Angels, I was having a go at YOU for weirdly making light out of violence that led to someone dying. Look, this isn't a well written article. I know you are probably going for a particular style, but all this "A certain person" and "another singer I could mention" makes it sound like a drunk's cryptic crossword. This is hardly a fucking crime though. This is hardly the only dodgy article here. Turning up to slag off everyone who doesn't like your masterpiece like some sort of internet hardman is not going to end well for you though.

Steve 9:35 pm, 8-Nov-2012

As if to put that Hollywood cake bloke in his place, back in the day, Delia made the cake for the cover of the Let It Bleed LP.

DrRic 1:49 am, 9-Nov-2012

@Markxist - Ah, I see now, the music of the Stones is better because its "obviously better". Well done, Sir, I suspect a career in parliament awaits with such debating skills. Also, picking on the Beatles because of Maxwell's Silver Hammer, a joke song from their last album - really? I mean, really? Shall I go and pick out some half-assed 90's B-side from the Stones, and judge their career on that?

Tin Soldier 10:29 am, 9-Nov-2012

One of the most dire articles I have read on this site so far and that is saying something.

adam 9:06 pm, 9-Nov-2012

11. Imagine is the worst song ever written. what planet are you on ? worse than the cheeky girls ? remember you're a womble ? the millenium prayer ? you are a joke. If you'd done any research at all, you'd know imagine was written and recorded in Ascot, England, not in New York. There was a film made of Lennon making it. In England. Surrounded by dozens of people. Hardly being reclusive. I'd agree with your statement that Let It Bleed is one of the greatest rock albums ever, if not the number one album, but the rest of this bilge is toss.

John T 4:07 am, 11-Nov-2012

Martin, just out of interest, what was it that you used to teach? Correct me if I'm wrong, but I'm guessing that it wasn't English....

mart 11:28 am, 11-Nov-2012

Adam, if you had done any research, you would know that Lennon was primarily based in New York after winning a hard fought Green Card, he may have recorded in Ascot, so fucking what? I went to the supermarket today and was surrounded by at least one hundred people, so obviously I'm not a recluse either. What an insight.

mike 12:29 pm, 12-Nov-2012

the beatles were an ok 60's pop band who wrote a few good pop songs, paul should behave and pack it in, his voice is shot, enough is enough, the stones on the other hand are the greatest rock and roll band of all time , and still doing it 50 yearson, one thing though keith was friends with john

Neil 7:31 pm, 12-Nov-2012

Good article Martin, made me laugh. Thomas the tank Engine was more rock and roll than the beatles !!

mart 7:14 pm, 14-Nov-2012

John T, after spending a week translating your comment and learning English, I used to teach Bulgarian to social retards remember? I think you needed potty training during the classes xxxxxx

John T 1:17 am, 15-Nov-2012

Yep, knew it wasn't English. Can't say I remember your classes but the potty training bit sounds about right, you look like the kind of guy who takes great delight in wiping arses. Glad to see you've taken inspiration from me and managed to come up with a reasonably punctuated retort, if you require any more assistance then by all means let me know. Merry xmas, John.

mart 2:30 pm, 15-Nov-2012

всичко това е вярно и да не забравяме,

John T 3:27 pm, 15-Nov-2012

The most eloquent thing you've written so far....

mart 12:22 am, 16-Nov-2012

Shucks

vicki 4:54 am, 11-Feb-2013

The Rolling Stones kick the beatles butt!!

Drew 12:15 am, 22-Feb-2013

Watching Mick Jagger try to wiggle around on stage as if he was still 25 is just downright embarrassing. The Stones music is for immature people who think the best years of their lives were between the ages of 16 and 19 when they were getting drunk and banging chicks. Arrested development. Leave the Beatles to the creative grownups.

Mark Ramsden 3:34 pm, 27-Feb-2013

"Funny, people weren’t clamouring to go and stay with Paul or George, ever." Why weren't THEY smart enough to hand out free heroin? You get a much better class of caller... A frequent guest at Paul McCartney's Rye Mansion told me he drops hints about how much a cheese sandwich would have cost in a cafe. He does it in front of his kids too, to their guests. He actually does want the money.

nycitiman 9:32 pm, 9-Apr-2013

when the beatles were together they were much better than the stones and jagger knows this. in fact the stones in 60s live sounded like shit and jagger cant hold a note. picture jagger dsongong something or the long and winding road lol. and as for the best singer of all time you all lose. its elvis Presley. nobody comes close!

TS 6:50 am, 10-Apr-2013

Yet Ned Kelly was god awful and Mick Jagger is never considered an actor. Plus he was shit at an irish accent. Yet Paul McCartney actually wrote an average movie and Ringo is still remembered by many people to this day as the narrator of a certain kids show. Is Mick Jagger remembered as Ned Kelly to this day. No because he was a shit actor.

fred 8:39 am, 13-Apr-2013

Start of history: Beatles told Decca to sign Stones and even wrote their firsts hits. Stone international fame was none prior to Beatles'departure. Stones impact cannot be compared to 'The Fabs'. I can be a matter of taste for some people but please do not re-write history.

lando mora 6:12 pm, 25-Apr-2013

Both are shit.

prakhar 11:09 pm, 9-Aug-2013

According to the Rolling Stones, Sgt. Pepper's lonely hearts club band of The Beatles is the Greatest album of all time.

James 4:52 pm, 9-Sep-2013

The beatles knew when to call it quits. That's why lennon is the only genuine legend out them all. To be fair to paul, he did marry a smelly pirate hooker with a wooden leg, that's pretty rock'n'roll. I find all these 'versus' talks a bit pointless anyway, it's impossible to compare. The beatles music isn't even music to most of us anymore, it's just part of our ingrained consciousness. I cant even tell if I'd like or dislike it if it was out now, so embedded is it in our collective history and culture. I doubt most us listened to the beatles religiously as kids, yet we know every song. Suppose that must mean it's quite good I guess? I often wonder what would have happened if we'd had no beatles. Would music be different now? There would obviously have been something else, but what and what would it be like? I'd be interested in hearing anything you fellas had to offer on that one.

ThewalruswasPaul 1:08 pm, 11-Sep-2013

Shit article. The Stones have turned into greedy skeletons that wheel themselves out whenever they need to pay a tax bill. They had a run of 3 albums that were untouchable (Sticky Fingers, Let it Bleed and Exile on Main St), but after that have become a joke band. Seriously - comparing Ronnie Woods musicianship with Brian Jones or Mick Taylor with a straight face is impossible. I was sad to miss them at Glastonbury until I saw them on TV. Worshipping Keith as a guitarist is pointless - he is technically awful; openly admitting that he turned to open tuning so he could wrap one finger around the guitar neck and bash out a cord without needing to finger it (he was too busy fingering Marianne Faithfull or whichever bird Brian Jones brought home). The Beatles quit while they were so far ahead that other people couldn't smell their farts. The Beatles impact on music is immeasurable - recording techniques, playing, writing, album driven careers (rejecting the single orientated world that The Stones were happy to plod around in), concentrating on their musicianship to ensure they were the best they could be. The Stones were happy to play to screaming girls, ripping off Ledbelly, Howling Wolf and Little Richard until the last shilling was drained into Mick's bony claw. Yes, the Stones were dangerous. But that is only because that is how they were marketed. The Beatles were doing what the Stones were doing, just quietly. Paul and John had habits. Ringo smoked so much dope he couldn't bang a drum and George didn't know whether he wanted a shit or a haircut after taking LSD for 3 months; but at the end of it they turned out Revolver and Sgt Peppers. The Stones desperately tried to buy into the hippy bullshit by releasing Her Satanic Majesties. What an absolute load of bollocks that was. And to answer a point - plenty of people tried to look like Mick, but how many people were desperate to sound/look/act/and be George, John, Paul and Ringo? Paul experimented with tape loops and sampling with Stockhausen - legitimately inventing the technique that is now used by producers every minute of the day. John was a poet and an artist. Ringo just wanted to be left alone, but George, oh George. He single handedly organised the concert for Bangladesh in horror at the famines that were occurring there in the early 70s. He advocated peace and love and understanding. He wrote beautiful solo music and quietly financed the production of one of the most seminal films of the 70s - The Life of Brian, just because he believed in Monty Python and thought it was funny. Mick made that fucking pig awful gangster film because he was offered money, and then raped Ned Kelly into the outback. But at the end of it, The Stones are wonderful. They write music that nails your ears back. The Beatles just managed to write music that changed everything.

Nasel Spray Gray Boy 5:48 pm, 20-Sep-2013

I used to like both bands when I was younger but see limitations in both. Beatles very formula but catchy, Stones musically limited and clear copiers. Still like both in small doses but neither compare to bands like Culture Club or Flock of Seagulls IMO

Doesn't matter 10:46 pm, 20-Sep-2013

The most telling factor not mentioned as yet is that the singer from the Beatles never lowered himself enough to join Superheavy. Admittedly he has a previous charge-sheet that outweighs that. FFS Mick, give yourself a slap. And never, never subject us to that Pish ever again.

Doesn't matter 11:00 pm, 20-Sep-2013

Also noticed some Bellend callng Elvis the greatest singer of all time.Behave yourself, I can think of dozens better just in the R'n'R or Soul side alone. I'll give you The Reverand Al Greene just for first off the Bat.

lady baba 5:22 pm, 6-Oct-2013

I was expecting some points that made sense.Why am I commenting?Nobody is better than the beatles.The stones are as fine as everybody else.The Beatles produced music for less than a decade and the stones are still going but they still haven't out sold the Beatles.C'mon let it bleed is fine but there are a hundred albums that are better.The stones try soo hard Paul McCartney is equally as ancient as all the stones but he is way cooler.He sounds perfect live and he tours casually he's still way richer than everybody in the stones.Imagine is the third best song in pop history.After like a rolling stone and let it be.Buy the way the Beatles are poet/musicians not a rock band or a boy band!

Openyoureyes 2:47 am, 8-Oct-2013

I've never read an article composed with more shit in my life and I am not one to exaggerate. I could not name more than 3 good Stones songs! They are without a doubt the most overrated rock band of the 20th century. They should call it a day and retire instead of producing pure garbage filtered through drug diseases throats. Jagger's voice is truly terrible now (superheavy anyone?) Paul McCartney is the greatest solo artist of all time and destroys everything associated with the Rolling Bones, Skeleton band or AKA pensioners trying to act cool forgetting that 50 years have fucking moved on. The Beatles have written over 100 songs of pure genius and if nobody can see or hear that then in my eyes you're a deaf and tasteless cunt. They're not the most successful band of all time for no reason. 2 billion sales can't be wrong. The Rolling Stones are a joke and the Beatles are musical poets and the best band the world has known. You all know I'm right so accept it and don't resist just to look cool or different because you don't, you look like kiddies supporting arrogant crackheads who think they're good.

Openyoureyes 2:52 am, 8-Oct-2013

Nobody will change my mind. Enjoy my comment and know I speak the truth. The Beatles invented the Stones and the cretins are still going after 50 years and its ridiculous and embarrassing. The Beatles changes after every album but fortunately the world knows that. Do not listen to this creep, they clearly know nothing of good music to think The Beatles suck, it's absurd and not one point is valid. Fuck you and fuck your opinion as its outdated like the stones hahaha peace out!

Baz 7:49 am, 15-Oct-2013

Well you've succeeded in being a devils advocate, you got the reactions you wanted, my opinion, how can you compare The Stones and The Beatles, two completely different bands that do what they did well, a bit of advice, take off your musical blinkers.

Dodjie 4:48 am, 25-Oct-2013

This article is trash. Nothing compares to the Beatles.

Beatlesmacca&lennon4ever!! 6:00 am, 3-Nov-2013

First of..... This is the dumbest article or facts whatever u want to call it ever!!! It makes absolute no sense about their music we all know the beatles where the kings in rock,sex,and drugs they were the ones to invent what we called music since like 40 years ago before music became crap which is what the Rolling Stones did !!! Maccabees and lennon have been the best music partnership for centuries and Rolling Stones can't even do that!!! The beatles where way more attractive and had mor girls dancing on their balls then mick Jagger's BIG HUGE LIP LOOKING A** !!! No one will ever beat the Beatles bc their music still rocks even now being older than the Rolling Stones and when they were high the actually made music not crap like I get no satisfaction also the beatles made music for the Rolling Stones !!! And the beatles were good at anything and they are still good looking up to today not like the Rolling Stones who are all old tickled and ugly!!!✌

Robert Giovinazzi 11:43 pm, 22-Nov-2013

In my opinion the stoes from 69-74 were the greatestb band. Take a look at their live concerts (ya yas in 1969 and Fort Worth 1972). Mick Taylor Keith Richards combo was deadly during that time.

Tony Ballzoni 10:15 am, 9-Jan-2014

Did this fucking idiot who wrote the article just say that the song Imagine sucks? Somebody needs to get his meds adjusted and the Stones wouldn't have even made it if it wasn't for the Beatles. The Beatles wrote 18 of the Top selling songs of the 60's. The Stones wrote 5.

Drew 3:06 am, 20-Jan-2014

The Beatles and the Stones both produced great music as bands. But only the individual Beatles have produced great solo work: John's Plastic Ono Band: Paul's Ram, Band on the Run and McCartney II; George's All Things Must Pass. ... None of the Stones as solo artists have produced any truly great solo work. Ergo, the Beatles win as artists and musicians.

Eric 12:16 am, 24-Feb-2014

I'm glad somebody finally realizes that imagine totally sucks! I hate what it stands for.tricking love song for socialism. I hate Lennon. If he wasn't dead nobody would like him.he was an embarrassment when he was alive. Going to an award show with a kotex on his head.he was ejectPed, protesting "do you know who I am?" "Yeah, you're an asshole wearing a kotex!"replied the bouncer.musically the who,the kinks,and the small faces were better the Beatles.it takes three Beatles to even to equal one ray Davies.album wise petsounds by the beach boys is way better than Sgt.Peppers ' .Tommy and Ogden's nut gone flake. Surpasses that album of non rocking out of touch circus music drivel.the only song that closely. assimilates rock is Paul's getting better.

CoolJerk 1:34 pm, 4-Mar-2014

The most irrelevant question ever. Stones vs Fabs. Like there's some law against liking both. This question was debated over in the likes of jackie magazine first time round and got nowhere. And if you seriously think Candy Flip's risible cover of Strawberry Fields Forever is better than the original, then you clearly have no ears.

MARIA 10:16 pm, 24-Mar-2014

I am a huge Beatles fan. The Beatles set the bar very high, and it has never been met by any other Band. The Beatles are the best band ever, and they will go down in history as such. The Beatles didn't have to dance around on stage to be popular, they did that with their music alone. The Stones are no where near the talent of the Beatles. Paul McCartney can play over 30 instruments. I'm going to stop, there's just not enough space for me to explain why the Beatles are better than the Stones. Anyone with a good ear for music could tell you that the Beatles are way better. Knock it off Stones fans, you're drawing for straws saying the Stones are better! The Beatles already proved they're the best Band ever. CASE CLOSED!

Robert Giovinazzi 1:38 am, 12-Apr-2014

Different bands. Both great in their own right but very different. I give the nod to the stones on longevity alone. So much for lennons quote that they would break up over brian jones' coffin.They were able to adapt throughout the years (blues, rock, country, disco, funk). BTW Brian Jones was also very talented with playing different instruments as well.

Grace Onzo Stovall / Gracie Starr 2:56 am, 14-Apr-2014

Well, you may have been a bit harsh on John Lennon. How ever here lately I have read similar articles on John here lately and I must say I do agree with most of what you said. First and foremost I will say THE ROLLING STONES HAVE ALWAYS BEEN THE BETTER BAND. In my opinion they BLOW THE BEATLES AWAY < American slang term for way fucking better! Don't get me wrong I love the Beatles. But I am probably the greatest MICK JAGGER FAN IN THE UNIVERSE. I adore keef and the stones and always have. Musically they are brilliant! No one rocks like Keith Richards. And never was their a better front man than MICK JAGGER.This is the only rock band who has ever excelled at each genre of music it approached. I mean BLUES, JAZZ, ROCK, DISCO,SOUTHERN ROCK/ COUNTRY, REGGAE,NEW WAVE,EVEN CLASSICAL..They have gone across the charts from pop, to groovey to rock to country,..And if anyone thinks it was Madonna who was the master chameleon I would say she comes in second to mick jagger. The only thing he didn't do was change his hair color or wear wigs. But he re created his appearance to suit his slight genre change in rock, ..He ruled the 60'S 70S ,80D' 90'S,..AND AFTER THE YEAR 2000 He went back to his roots and began to write straight bluesy Rock music once again,.. It is awfully late here and i am tired,.. But I will say your article is Brilliant,..and I love and adore Mick Jagger and the stones,..God bless them may they rock til they are 90 years old!! Cheerio!

Lennie 7:15 pm, 19-Apr-2014

Quite simply; no fucking way. It's not a close call. The power of the Beatles attack, even in their most "pop" performances was something that The Stones could only dream of matching. It's hard to do this, because no one, least of all me, wants to denigrate the achievment of that great band. But in '63, '64. '65, if you had put them onstage in a battle of the bands, the Beatles would have decimated the Stones. And if you had pitted them offstage, the working class boys from Liverpool would have kicked their ass.

Lennie 7:22 pm, 19-Apr-2014

It's one of the continuing absurdities of the pop culture consensus that the Stones have the "street cred," when it was the Beatles who were actually from the street.

Sam 10:11 pm, 23-Jun-2014

I love the Beatles and the stones, they both have such a huge cult following of idiots who argue about obscure nonsense to try and back up the band they prefer. this article is one sided and stupid; it doesn't talk enough about the music that the bands actually have made, it just dwells on the stones being 'cooler' than the Beatles. They are both legendary bands and the whole rivalry between the stones and the beetles to me is moronic. you can prefer a band obviously, but Its not easy to become as acclaimed as these two bands are, so it's stubborn and nieve to dismiss one band as terrible because it is the Rolling Stones and the Beatles we are talking about here, perhaps the two greatest bands ever to come. So open your ears and shut your mouths.

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