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by Tom Bromley
8 February 2012 17 Comments

It's back tonight for a second run, but what do Brooker, Laverne, Carr and Mitchell have in common with Clapton, Jagger and Real Madrid...?

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10 O’Clock Live is back. One of 2011’s most anticipated programmes has become one of 2012’s least-looked forward to second series. Even Channel 4 took six months of humming and hawing to decide whether or not to bring it back. Their hesitation is understandable. On paper, the show should be brilliant. It has Lauren Laverne, the sassiest presenter on British television: Charlie Brooker, the most acerbic; David Mitchell, the most astute; and if you want a borderline joke about anal sex, then Jimmy Carr is very much the go-to man. Yet somehow, this supposed comedy dream team has turned out a programme that garnered as few viewers as it did glowing reviews.

How so? The answer lies in the fact that the 10 O’Clock Live presenters are less of a dream team and more the latest example of that wonky old seventies cliché: the supergroup. The supergroup is a hoary old concept that, like the supertax and Abba’s Super Trouper, and should have stayed in the historical dustbin where it belongs. Yet like a dodgy kebab, the supergroup keeps on coming back, as though each new generation has to discover for themselves why it doesn’t work.

The origins of the supergroup are found in late sixties rock music, when someone came up with the apparently brilliant wheeze of pulling together the best elements of different bands, in order to produce one supposedly fabulous new entity. The archetypal outfit was the aptly named Blind Faith, which united a post Cream Eric Clapton, a post-Traffic Steve Winwood, another post-Creamite Ginger Baker and former Family bassist Rick Grech. The concerts sold out before anyone had heard a single note, which was probably just as well as the group’s solitary LP failed to live up to the sky high expectations. The group’s only contribution to musical history is to have come up with the worst album cover of all time: a topless photo of a not especially attractive pubescent schoolgirl.

The supergroup is a hoary old concept that, like the supertax and Abba’s Super Trouper

The supergroup quickly became shorthand for a bunch of talented musicians getting together and showing off to each other how virtuoso they were at their instruments. The more fun it was for them, the less it was for the audience. The seventies offered up such delights as prog-rock trio Emerson, Lake and Palmer, where former members of Nice, Rooster and King Crimson wondered what a rock version of Mussorgsky’s Pictures of an Exhibition would sound like. The eighties gave us the Power Station, where Robert Palmer, the drummer from Chic and half of Duran Duran had a shoulder-padded karaoke bash through ‘Get it On’. More recently, the band Superheavy answered the question no one was asking: what would it sound like if Mick Jagger, Joss Stone and Dave Stewart got together for a jam?

Yet despite the concept of the supergroup having singularly failed to produce a single decent record of note, the idea has somehow found traction and spread to other areas, with equally disappointing results. Take sport, for example. In the 1990s, Real Madrid launched their infamous galacticos transfer policy, which consisted of buying as many outrageously brilliant forwards as they could and spending as little as possible on defence. The resulting unit, boasting the talents of Ronaldo, Zidane, Beckham and Figo might have sold a lot of replica shirts, but didn’t exactly leave the trophy cabinet bulging. Over the pond in the United States, a similar scenario occurred in basketball: at the 2004 Olympics, the US ‘dream team’ of NBA all-stars seemed nailed on for gold; instead, they found themselves beaten by such basketball giants as Puerto Rico and Lithuania.

10 O’Clock Live is essentially no different to Real Madrid’s galacticos or Eric Clapton’s Blind Faith. The individuals involved are all at the top of their game, but that’s not what creating a stand out team, dream or otherwise, is all about. In his 1990s book ‘Friends in High Places’, Jeremy Paxman describes spending a weekend observing the Conservative Party selecting prospective MPs. What astounded him was that far from picking the top candidates, several of ‘unremarkable calibre’ got the nod instead: ‘The assessors explain that they are not looking for the best; ‘that’d be hopeless. We’d end up with 350 MPs who all wanted to Prime Minister.’’

You might argue that explains a lot about modern politics. You’re probably right. But I think in that assessment, there’s an understanding about what is required to make a successful team: one person in charge, and everyone else there to back him or her up. In football terms, the key to every great side is not the star striker, but the Claude Makelele or Didier Deschamps-style ‘water carrier’: the midfielder who sits back, breaks up the opponent’s attacks and pushes his team forwards with the simplest of passes. If you stuff a band with great musicians, then everyone will want to have a solo: that’s why Oasis had Bonehead, U2 Adam Clayton and the Fab Four Ringo Starr – not even the best drummer in the Beatles, as Lennon caustically noted. The great comedy double acts, meanwhile, rely not on two laugh-out-loud comedians, but a joke teller and a straight man. You wouldn’t have rushed out to see ‘An Evening With Ernie Wise’, but in helping get Eric Morecambe his laughs, the man was indispensable.

What Channel 4 should really have done is to follow the formula of America’s The Daily Show

That’s the problem with 10 O’Clock Live: it’s four (ok, three and a half) brilliant individuals, each doing their own, individual headline thing: literally disproving the coalition’s claim that we’re all in it together. Brooker is his usual acidic self, even if you know that were he was still doing ‘Screen Burn’ he’d be taking the show apart; David Mitchell is equally sharp, even if his main contribution is essentially just reading his Observer column to camera. But who’s the main guy? Where’s the focus? It’s like Ronaldo passing to Figo, flicking it on to Zidane and, oh bugger, everyone’s switched over to watch the Kardashians.

What Channel 4 should really have done is to follow the formula of America’s The Daily Show. They should have built the programme around one central Jon Stewart figure (any of the above, bar Jimmy Carr), and backed him or her up with a supporting cast of budding John Olivers and Samantha Bees. Actually, what Channel 4 should really have done is to have used the money spent signing up such high profile names in not cancelling The Daily Show in the first place. To have that back on our screens instead: now that really would be super.

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Adam 11:18 am, 8-Feb-2012

An astute analysis. Like everyone, I was left with a distinct feeling of "meh" by the first series. There were several issues that need addressing. Firstly, the simply poor quality of Carr and Laverne's material. Brooker and Mitchell's monologues were the only truly funny parts. Second, the structure. Laverne could be a Frost-esque middle anchor if she cuts out the grandstanding. Putting the show into the format of a news bulletin would be the best idea. Third, the audience. A slant to the left might be inevitable in a comedy show (though the Daily Show and HIGNFY aren't similarly afflicted). But why oh why was it made up entirely of asinine students, screeching and standing to ovate every time someone went, "the Tories eh? wankers". The major problem though is the final word of the title, and something that they haven't addressed for the second run. There was absolutely nothing gained by all of it being live (and possibly something lost). The monologues might as well have been pre-recorded - a third of the show actually was anyway - and what else wasn't badly needed to be (especially the debates where Mitchell flapped like a dying fish). If you want to do absolutely topical comedy, you might as well just broadcast a Twitter feed. (I have a lower opinion of Twitter than Sean Lock and Lee Mack combined.) As for supergroups, I quite like the Travelling Wilburys - and the Galacticos were the best team in Europe for at least two years, despite attempts to portray them as complete failures.

Adam 11:20 am, 8-Feb-2012

Hmm. Doesn't this thing let you split it into paragraphs? It was in five sections when I typed it up!

www.thegreenwichbarber.com 11:46 am, 8-Feb-2012

I can remember when Lauren Laverne used to have a Mackem accent on the telly. She was no doubt told to drop the regional accent if she wanted The Culture Show gig as it wouldn't be understood by the inner M25 target audience dwellers. But BBC2 needed to deflect accusations of being London-centric in it's choice of presenters for 'art and culture' programming.

Dante 11:49 am, 8-Feb-2012

Interesting article. According to The British Comedy Guide producers have learnt from their mistakes and most of the individual items have gone, in favour of more team-based stuff. Either way, I applaud C4 for giving it a second chance and room to learn from its mistakes... and will be tuning in with interest to see if what you say above will repeat itself, or whether this could be an example of a supergroup that works.

Seth 12:31 pm, 8-Feb-2012

I think you're spot on here - needs to coalesce around one main presenter with the others in support. Unfortunately none of them have the gravitas of John Stewart. The other issue is you don't really need Mitchell and Brooker who are essentially more sweary and less sweary versions of the same thing.

Matt 12:54 pm, 8-Feb-2012

I was underwhelmed by series one, but to be honest my main problem wasn't so much the (admittedly patchy) comedy stuff, but the lack of meat in interviews. The presenters (particularly Mitchell) seemed happy to push on a point, but were constantly having to switch over to the next segment just as things became interesting. I'd much rather see a full half hour dedicated to Mitchell & Brooker getting a politician on the ropes with no cuts.

Harry Futile 2:12 pm, 8-Feb-2012

Lock the audience out and it might just work.

yogavo 2:15 pm, 8-Feb-2012

give the show to mitchell and brooker. sack the other two off. i don't care how cute lavern is supposed to be.

Welsh Dragon 4:21 pm, 8-Feb-2012

I think equating these four to a 'supergroup' is slightly ridiculous. It's a comedy show not the Olympics or the Champions League final for God's sake! As for the show - format: could do better and presenters: Mitchell and Brooker good, Carr not so good and Lavern a waste of space.

krissy 5:10 pm, 8-Feb-2012

well i liked it so there and i look forward to number two.

joan 12:02 pm, 9-Feb-2012

I'm inclined to agree with 'Matt' with regard to Mitchell and Brooker. An opportunity wasted where their interviewing abilities are concerned. Also, Jimmy Carr is a funny man without resorting to a lot of superfluous 'dressing up.' This show has such potential - please get it right.

gingerprince 12:04 pm, 9-Feb-2012

Lauren Laverne 'Sassy'? come on. She's hopelessly out of her depth and it shows. I hate to say it but is she there for decoration purposes only? Charlie Brooker should be the one in charge, and the others made to fawn around his heels like little lambs.

HM 8:31 pm, 9-Feb-2012

Lauren Laverne always seems much funnier and switched on when working without a script, dosn't help when the scripts for this are not up to par. Still not funny even with a new series.

andy southgate 8:26 pm, 10-Feb-2012

I like the way you contrive to make your point, and for the record I think the show is shit, so I totally agree. However there was one super group who made it big - The Travelling Wilburys - containing Bob Dylan, Tom Petty, George Harrison, Jeff Lynne and The Big "O" himself.

killieboy 10:05 pm, 10-Feb-2012

As stated I'm amazed this has came back with the same format as it's obvious a similar show with Brooker & Mitchell could work (30 mins/45 mins long)& equally obvious Laverne is way out of her depth attempting comedy & Carr is confusing smugmess with humour.

linus 9:27 pm, 19-Feb-2012

David mitchell is an unfunny upper middle class cunt,hope the cunt dies

kingkerouac 3:09 pm, 8-Feb-2013

But you couldn't get any Tories for the audience...they'll be out strangling children whilst masturbating, won't they?

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