Can the next article be 'why I hate chain pub barmen' with desultations of such behind the bar quotes like: 1. 'Aint you got anything smaller?' - No I have not you buffoon - sorry to give you £40 for a £31 round but I left my coin jar at home 2. 'Do I look like I'm serving?' Yes, you do seeing as you are wearing a rancid black polo shirt with Yates' wine lodge Watford on it like everyone else behind the bar 3. 'Tipping is not a plce in China' And serving shite lager in a warm glass is not good service.

I ran a bar and now being a customer i cant stand the feckless part time bar staff who couldnt give a toss, who have no sense of order, i never found it difficult on a Friday or Saturday night to know who was next - weird thing, people actually look different. I could also take more than one drink in an order ie bar persons that get confused after drink 2 in a 4 drink round are thick as pig shit. Dirty glasses is another pain in the ass, as with a clean bar - it really isnt that hard to clean liquid off of hard surfaces. But the worst thing that happens to me as a customer is servers putting coke in my whisky when i never asked for coke, that or looking confused when i order a whisky "with? what? no mixer?" Yes you bell end it is a drink of its own, we're not all retarded students ordering JD and coke. However, serving hundreds of customers takes its toll, low earners who've taken all their money out to flash a wad of 20s, ah, you must be loaded! No! you drive a van, oh, how suave you are! with their leaning over, waving a note to get served, as if golum will run to the precious. Ordering what you think is their round... is that everything? but then adding one more, then another, then another - just tell me what you want and i'll go get it, efficiently; just because you cant remember past the 5th letter of the alphabet doesnt mean i cant take 10 drinks ffs

Yes DW - Yates' Wine Lodge Watford - quite possibly the breeding ground for all of earth's scum. Warm beer, rose on the dance floor and sticky elbows on the bar. What a place

I'm sorry but being a barman isn't a skilled job therefore you should only be paid minimum wage and you should be fucking greatful for it. Typically bollocks by a Mammy's boy who is probably being paid through university by your parents, have no idea of the value of cash and think your above 'normal' working folk because you go to university.

why dont you get a proper job then, you know like an intelligent human being. Oh I forgot, youre a "writer" well don't give up the day job pal, you're shit at it.

Working ANYWHERE in the service industry is a thankless job looking after feckless idiots who genuinely believe that bullshit that 'the customer is always right'. They're rarely right. They're usually obnoxious fucks who think they're above you because of which side of the till they stand on. Well said Chris.

I'm with Chris on this one. I've never worked in a bar mostly due to not wanting to have to deal with drunk animals all night long. I think some of the people having a pop at the writer are proving his point unbeknownst to themselves. Well done lads.

Having worked on both sides i.e drinking Stella two for one with my yellow card all night in glasgow and serving up your own arse complete tossers in a proper boozer in clapham asking for rock shandys (orange and lemonade to everyone else) while the pub is 5 deep due to a England v Wales rugby international. I had the best boss who quite nicely told the person "if your orderly shit like that then fuck off this is a pub". So my out take on the whole subject is that if you in a pub serving or drinking your all cunts.

Haha. Pwned.

Oh dry it up crybaby. Yes drunks can be obnoxious, dude you work in a bar. That's a bad place to be if you can't handle drunk people. Seek a new profession I beg you.

I've been a bar manager and drunk people are fine. That's why they're in a pub. Generally smiling and being polite gets most people on your side. I've been a customer in a pub many times and I can't fucking stand miserable bar staff. Cheer up you sour twat and listen to my order right. Your manager should have a word.

It seems this comments section is filled with the exact same people the writer was referring to. The general public are often terrible people, when drunk: worse. Misanthropy is not a choice

Rossi... your boss told a guy to fuck off for ordering an OJ and lemonade? Am I missing something here?

Working in a pub must be a thankless task. I worked in what was supposed to be an English pub abroad, and whilst there was a certain demand for pints, it was mostly bottles and mixed drinks. However, on Friday nights (it was worse on amateur nights - NYE etc) where you'd get the worst people imaginable. Drunk off their faces as they never go out on the lash (good for them) ordering Flaming B52's (a triple layered shot) with only one barman and 200 customers, ordering martinis one by one, cosmopolitans, but this one is with triple sec and that one with Cointreau: FUCK OFF. I understand that you know what you like to drink, but if you see one person with deer in the headlights eyes, get a Heineken you fucker. OJ and Lemonade is something that you look forward to in a real bar, it just comes out the gun, simples. It's a different clientele, 9am drunks in 'Spoons compared to office workers blowing off steam. Between the two I couldn't choose... so i quit!

I used to work behind the bar at a pub in sleepy St Albans. By day it was full of binmen who had just finished their rounds and by night it was a drum n bass pub. Not two of the finest demographics to serve booze to but i can honestly say i have never laughed so much in my life.

To everyone who is begging me to get a new job, I did. I wrote this in the midst of angsty teenage bitterness at not being able to find a place to work where being punched in the face by beered-up squaddies wasn't an occupational hazards. Thankfully I now work in a pub that isn't full of fucking bellends. You live and learn!

Hmm. A very opinionated insight. Also, grammatically incorrect in a few places which is surprising for you. Anyway, a somewhat interesting read although the colourful language makes it hard to sympathise with your previous predicaments. Try not to whinge so much next time. Overall, not a bad start at all.

Drunks are the most annoying people there are. They are absolutely stupid and make total asses of themselves in a constant basis. When having to deal with them in a working situation, social situation, or living situation, it takes all you can do to not go off on them. For you idiots out there who think it's cool to be drunk and harass those around you, you are the pricks I'm talking about. Rather than telling this guy to get a real job and a life, why don't you assholes sober up and go fucking deal with it for a change. Bro, I'm sorry you have to work such a shit job. Perhaps when another job becomes available, you may want to go for it and get out of your current situation. Sometimes, people have to take the jobs they can get. I really have no tolerance whatsoever for idiots who think the world stems around their next buzz. Having a drink is one thing, not being able to handle your booze and making an ass out of yourself in the name of being drunk is only a poor excuse and shows your mentality. I've put up with drunks my whole life and I despise them with every breath. They suck!

it has to be said though that its fairly obvious the moment you step into one of these places that the staff dont want to be there, that is always off putting for a customer. the common denominator these places have id slow and often surly service. dont get me wrong i imagine it can be hell on earth but so are other peoples jobs sometimes. Occasionally though there are exceptions and often in the strangest places. The wood green branch of wetherspoons is rather unlovely even as far as these places go,i won't tell you what my job was/is but tit involved a lot of hanging around (nothing illegal, infact quite the opposite), this place was my bolthole, find aquiet corner, nurse a couple of drinks and there was a barman there who was cheeriness itself. At the time they were doing a pint of Greene King IPA for 99p and as he poured eachone and asked for payment he would say, " i never get tired of saying that" (99p) he took real pleasure in his job. None of their barmaids seem to be lookers though do they?!

Chris is only pissed poff coz noboby has (yet) ofered him a nosh.

Hi Chris, Hope you're well. So glad someone has written what we have all been thinking for a long time! Take care Walker

I was disappointed in this piece, far from being a whinger I thought the author pulled his punches, there are a lot worse punters than the ones he describes. Only in england is Barman not a proper job, in NYC a barman can earn a living wage, here a barman is a target for the sneers of the self loathing poor and the disdain of the slightly better off. keep 'em coming Chris

Please, thank you that's all, unless you know the barman/woman. Then leave a decent tip. It's not an easy job.

Worked in Yates in St Helens. Everyone thought they were Peter Kay (yeah yeah he's not from there, but they were all fat Northern 'comedians'). "How much?! You should be wearing a stipey jumper you mert". And lingering hand out for their penny change.