You are contradicting yourself on one hand we are as bad as each other, then in the last paragraph rangers hate us more than we hate them, in this country it’s all about the numbers, there are more rangers fans, they receive the most arrests for sectarianism fact, I’m not saying there is no bitterness on both sides, they will never be peace unless the marches stop, and the press don’t as they always do over hype every word that is said to sell papers..

I fully expect the comments to be closed by this afternoon.

Well done Tony you have won the prize for the longest sentence ever.

Good article but I think you may be overcompensating in order to appear unbiased. Celtic have never been as bad as Rangers. There has always been an extreme element in our support, but it was always small in comparison to Rangers'. And even our hardcore element, as you correctly point out, is mellowing. I have not heard a sectarian song at Celtic Park in years - controversial songs, yes; political songs, yes; but no sectarian ones.

have to say as a Celtic fan I dont hate rangers fans. I hate racism and racist, fortunately it easy to collectively group rangers fans under this category. the fundamental difference between the two clubs is that, celtic fans love celtic more that they hate rangers. Rangers hate celtic more than they love their team.

Haven't read such ill-informed haverings in a long long time. The famine song? Up to their knees? Nazi salutes? Vile songs about Tommy Burns death. MANCHESTER? The atempted murder of at least two police officers? The disgrace that was Barcelona (AGAIN)? Bricks through team buses? Racist chants about Gypsies in Romania? Homeless men thrown in fountains for laughs? The list is endless and the offences not only encouraged by the rangers board but used to turn a buck! What part of FTP is it you don't understand?? And as for 'Eindhoven love in', Eindhoven is one of the most densely Catholic populated cities in Europe, as is practically the entire province of Brabant, which goes all the way from Nijmegan/Arnhem to Breda, which is widely accepted in the NL as being virtually exclusively Catholic. I'm only glad that you obviously wasted alot more of your time than I just have mine!! hAIL! hAIL!

the famines over....

The biggest load of rubbish I have ever read! An obvious attempt at trying to paint the Celtic fans as innocents. This it ain't sectarian, it's political nonsense! Sing about an organisation that went out to kill innocent Brits and it is ok??? Yeah political, not sectarian! Utter garbage! Admittedly well written by an undoubted educated bigot; the worst type around!

Excellent article. Mark Antony would be proud of you

Wow, another "but we're no as bad as them" playground argument. Perhaps the OF should concentrate more on their own team and giving young Scottish talent a chance, then maybe they could achieve something in Europe. Unfortunately that mentality isn't there in the Glasgow goldfish bowl.

I pity you, I really do. To buy into that drivel you must have had to hear it a thousand times over. There is only one team in this country with an obsession about religion and they don't wear blue. Tell you this for free though, religion in its entirity are the most powerful political orginisations around, the catholic church being the extreme right wing party.

the whole world knows what club stands for what , thats why 1 is eithout doubt one of the biggest supported clubs the world over , the other is hardly supported by any1 outside of the uk and northern ireland with citys hoping and praying their team does not draw them in european competition.

I'm neutral, in that I don't care about either side, but this bit makes no sense: "History shows us that Rangers are a club built on foundations in opposition to Celtic... founded sixteen years prior to us in 1872" Pre-emptive opposition. Magic.

Rangers were founded by 4 teenagers in 1872, in the Kinning Park area I believe. Founded out of a love for football and an ambition to play one day at Association level. Celtic were founded by Irish immigrants, who decided to poach the real Irish footballing talent from the original Irish team in Scotland, Hibernian. Very charitable. The contradictions in your post are astounding. Well done for continuing the circle of a petty rivalry. I long for the day Rangers and Celtic fans talk about football, and not who has the best/worst arrests at football.

Compare the Celtic supports example in Seville to rangers' example in Manchester. Compare Celtics example in Lisbon 67 to rangers' example in Barcelona 72. Please inform us of any game were the Celtic support conducted themselves in such a manner as the thugs who brought such shame on their country, city and club, as rangers supporters did on both these occasions? Are you in total denial of the fact that rangers had a sectarian apartheid signing policy against Catholics for almost a 100 years? Have Celtic FC ever had, from it's conception, a similar apartheid signing policy against Protestants? Yeah, one's as bad as the other!! What a complete unadulterated uncle timothy crock of s....

This one is gonna run and run.

@ Richard Gough not only knew but....., where exactly in Scotland are Derrys walls? What exactly does 'the sash your father wore' mean? Coming from a support that seems to think that calling a Nazi salute a 'red hand salute' is a valid excuse, well really..... The famine's over........

I can only refer to my own experiences of both sets of supporters whilst as student in Scotland. First of all, I am from Belfast and wouldn't give either of the teams the time of day. Their revenue streams are gained from nothing but sectarianism, in my opinion. That said, from memory, whenever I was asked by one of our Scottish cousins on a night out at the students' union which team I supported I always said 'none'. After further questioning I would guess that 50% of the time I was called an Orange bastard, 50% a Fenian c*nt. Now, I know it was probably remiss of me not to have recorded it (for the sake of accuracy), it generally led me to believe that they're both as unpalatable and bigoted as each other. Just saying, like.

So James, could you actually address the question, when have Celtic supporters ever acted in such a thuggish murderous manner as the rangers support re-Barcelona 72, their more recent national disgrace and SHAME in Manchester and when they had an illegal sectarian aparthied policy against Protestants? Just saying like.

JAN, I have no idea what happened in 1972 and I'm not overly bothered. It was 40 years ago. Manchester was repugnant behaviour by their supporters. Rangers supporters can be vile and, at times, Neanderthal. From my experience of 4 years living in Scotland Celtic supporters can be just as sectarian. I've heard as many people say F*ck the Pope as say F*ck the Queen. They are both good clubs with great histories but the actions of both sets of supporters tarnishes the reputation of Scottish football at a time when its stock can surely go no lower.

Possibly the worst standard of writing I've read outside a youtube comment. Don't give up the day job mate. WEhatever that may be. Judging by your use of the English language that would be cleaning public toilets

As an Aberdeen fan, I'd just like to say that I detest every single thing about the currant buns.

I really didn't want to comment on this, really I didn't. I'm an Aberdeen man also and as such it will be well known we despise the Hun However, trying to tarnise them with the crap in Manchester the other year is utter Bollocks. Yes, they were drinking. No, they can't behave themselves but to suggest that all the trouble-makers were only Rangers supporters is utter nonsense. Thugs from all corners of the UK were there masquerading as Teddies in the safe knowledge they'd find a ruck.

an aberdonian sticking up for cream buns!what a shock!anyway,why have the tims not got fined for singing songs about the i.r.a?have tims not attacked goalkeepers,referees,rangers players' cars etc.been racist to mr diouf?sung songs about no protestants left etc?

Ah, the auld Chelsea excuse. Awa and shite. The Huns are vermin. Always have been, always will be.

What fucking Planet are you on? I'm not defending them at all for fuck sake, I'm merely stating a fact.

at first reading i spotted a few contradictions, but overall it speaks a lot of truth. the truth being that yes, rangers hate us more than they love their team, and the opposite going for us. another one being that we both rely on eachothers existence to carry on being big teams, even though rangers would rather have us wiped off the earth. but you started off saying that both sides are as bad as eachother, when you concluse that rangers are worse. your conclusion is obviously correct which is the most important thing, but just think about contradictory statements for next time!

I am a celtic fan through and through, however, I believe, whatever your ' political or secterian views' keep them for bairds or the loudon Tavern. If we keep doing the same we will keep getting the same! If your neighbour is a drunk and you are everyone will will talk about you as a couple! If only one is, then the other is revered! We make our own future! HH

The world is a much easier place to live in once you accept their claims that everything Rangers do is evil and on every matchday 60,000 Nelson Mandelas attend Parkhead. There's no point arguing otherwise; life's too short.

not all Nelson Mandelas Dave, theres some Mother Theresa's in there to mind? And dont forget the current buns do have that nasty 'wearrapeepil' outlook which tends to make them a wee bit annoyin!!and confused.. ye'd think if they actually WERE ra peepil that they'd be a wee bit feckin happier aboot it??

This is just a snide playground cowardly, "We might be bad but we're bad like the Taliban not like Al Quaeda". An ad hominem attack masquerading as a heartfelt mea culpa, poor lamb. Disingenuous twat.

Wan lotta pish from a green spectacle wearing idiot!Which stadium was closed for 2 months during WW2 due to pro nazi support being chanted fae the Bhoys? To mention racism but fail to mention bananas and mark walters? Gotta laugh at this piece more holes than a box of tetley?

I have to take issue with your perceptions that Rangers harbour more hate for their rivals than Celtic fans do. Take a trawl of any Celtic forum and you'll find shed loads of hatred. The biggest thread on Kerrydale Street, or example, is their 'Generic hun' thread which shows they're attentions are just as much on Rangers as they are on their own club. Plenty hatred and bile in that thread. Maurice Johnstone. No doubt it caused problems for both sides of the old firm but that fizzled out on the blue side decades ago while the hatred is still alive and 'well' over on the green side. Note the Celtic fans who said they'd boycott (should that be bhoycott?) a charity football match last year if Maurice Johnston played in it. To the person who said more arrests are made for anti Catholic abuse. Well, given the Catholic population is a minority, if you just look at the headline total figures that is the case. But if you adjust it taking into account Catholics make up one fifth of the population, lo and behold, it turns out anti Protestant sectarianism is more prevalent per capita.

funny hows its your country when we do anything bad yet you persist on singing of your love for anything irish what a load of pish

The most obvious lie in this article, is the claim that Rangers fans hate Celtic more than Celtic fans hate Rangers. As anyone with any sense can see, the reason the sectarian issue has become more prominent in recent years is due to Celtics lack of success. This always happens when Celtic go through a lean period. They are so obsessed with all things Rangers, they deliberately crank up the religious questions. It is also why they have adopted the little red headed ned as some sort of messiah. They love his ranting, foaming at the mouth racist & disgusting remarks, in fact, they just love him because he is a perfect role model for them. Relax bhoys. Success will surely come to you sometime down the line. Then we can all get back to concentrating on football matters, at least until Rangers become dominant again.

sorry just browsing other things rangers had cathoilic before celtic were even formed so stop the shit we had none before maurice johnstone more pish

Ahh scooty with the old chestnut of dragging up things that happened 50 years ago and a quarter of a century ago to try and bring some balance to the argument. The fact's don't lie, in this day and age huns sing about no catholics, make a song up about the deaths of a million people so that they can sing to Celtic fans the famine is over why dont you go home. Do me a favour and replace famine with holocaust and tell me if your feet would touch the ground if you sang that to Jews living in Scotland? Not too mention wading in fenians blood, a filthy smear campaign against the greatest Scottish manager ever with no thought to how his family must feel and how the victims of the evil man Torbett must feel being reminded of it day after day. Throw in the sanctions from UEFA, the constant thuggery when you go abroad, pissing on Catholic monuments in Barcelona, attacking the Villareal team bus, Manchester 08 where you nearly kicked a policeman to death. Throw in the fact that every sectarian death in Scotland over the last 20 years has been a Celtic supporter dying at the hands of huns. But yeah, Celtic fans sing rebel songs so they are every bit as bad as the huns... I'm sick to death of this comparison because it only takes a few brain cells to look at the facts an see it is quite clearly not the case.

Brian. Its your lot that support the terrorists who constantly kill Jews, so what are you talking about in your previous post. Wake up and smell the coffee. Celtic fans = support of world terrorism. FACT.

Speak for yourself I fcukin despise them with every fibre of my being.

Bert......yes Catholics make up approx 20% of the population,but that doesn't mean Protestants make up 80% . Actually the church of Scotland makes up 44% and other Protestant denominations account for another 7%. So it's roughly 2 1/2 to one not 4 to 1 which I'm assuming your basing your figures of more anti Protestant attacks than vice versatile....

What a total load of clap trap the author is the kind of football "fan" we in Glasgow wished would disappear.

Tony morgan, can you tell me what parades/marches has got to do with the old firm?

Who's got the biggest cocks you bigoted twats

I asked a rangers supporter the difference between catholics and protestants,he replied use believe in god and we dont.Thats what your up against in scotland.

A relatively well written article but the writer is missing the elephant in this Buckfast soaked room: Nobody gives a f**k about the SPL. Dross league populated by dross teams with dross players. Dross

Rangers were started by four boys with a love of the association game, whilst walking through Kelvingrove Park one day. The name 'Rangers' was taken by Moses McNeil from the C.W. Alcock book 'The Football Annual 1871/2/3', after a club called 'Swindon Rangers' who themselves played rugby, and ironically also wore a White Top with a blue star on the chest (as seen in the 1877 team photo worn by the Rangers). Celtic were conceived in 1887 by Brother Wilfrid whilst he attended an Scottish Football League hearing between Hibernian and Vale of Leven, after the latter contested that during their Cup Final match, Hibernian had used and played 'payed players' (a taboo at the time). At this hearing Wilfrid spoke to the president of Hibernian at the time (the name I forget) who said he should open a similar club for catholics in Glasgow. And so, he did. In the process Wilfrid offered cash sums to the then Hibernian players to come and help him open up his Celtic Football Club (pronounced at the time Keltic), again, a taboo, professionalism wasn't allowed in Scottish football at this time. 16 (17 on conception) years seperate the two teams, who both started for totally different reasons. In the start, Rangers and Celtic were both friendly, Rangers started up many friendly matches to help Celtic get underway and raise money for the catholic charity. This friendliness survived until the early 21st century, and didn't get really bitter until after World War 1/early 1920's when a protestant support started appearing at Rangers matches, and has done ever since. Prior to that Rangers themselves would have had many catholics in their support, especially prior to Celtic starting in 1887/8, that's always an interesting thought to ponder eh? All of these Celtic fans who's great great grandfathers have also always been Celtic fans.. when in reality chances are their relations would have watched/supported one of the other Glasgow teams previous to that, Rangers or Queens Park most likely. And this 'anti catholic signing policy since birth' is as much rubbish as anything else, Rangers had no religious signing policy then, especially in the birth years, religion was not of relevance to the Rangers players back then, they played football for the love of football, to be the best, and try and win the scottish cup. They would have had protestant, catholic and atheist players in their side, right up until the 1920's at least, and whilst I don't believe we've ever had a 'protestant only club' sign hanging on the door, from 1930 onward as much as celtic have favoured ROI players, Rangers have favoured Northern Irish players, it goes both ways in my opinion. You can see that the team/s that brought religion into football were Hibernian and Celtic. Celtic were nothing more than the younger twin brother of Hibernian, who basically stole all their older brothers toys to use. (and fair enough to raise money for a just cause, where that money went is another story though..) Rangers on the other hand started for one reason only. The same reason I came to support them as a boy (an atheist may I add), the love of football.

Another Smeltic fan playing the poor me card. Your points regarding Barcelona and Manchester have some truth attached but not exactly how you put it across. As a Rangers fan who was in Barcelona recently I have a few points for you to chew over and to put you straight. Firstly estimates reckon about 25,000 Gers fans headed to Barca, who brought huge amounts of money to the local economy via hotels, supermarkets, taxis, pubs etc etc. They knew we would be coming and gladly took our hard earned money but provided absolutely no facilities. People had to go somewhere but to suggest we all queued and waited to urinate over a Catholic monument was absurd. Also no arrests were made unlike when Celtic headed over. In fact 1 Celtic fan smashed a jug over a local man's head then the bar manager. He is now in Jail for 5 years. Manchester was the best 2 days of my Rangers life. Although the result wasn't great the atmosphere was superb and the locals were great. £25m to the local economy was estimated but then a couple of hundred numpties spoiled it for the rest of it. Wether they were fans or not, it will always be remembered as a black day for Rangers. I was in the other square so didnt know what happened until my friend who is a Celtic fan texted me to tell me to stay clear of the trouble. I have lots of friends who support Celtic who all have a story of two about not so good Celtic fans or experiences. One worked for British Gas. He was late for a game and headed straight from work to Parkhead with his work clothes on. He had on an Orange Hi-vis jacket and was spat upon by his own fans due to the colour of his jacket!!! Same fan was in Europe watching his beloved and took out his Scotland flag. He was clearly told by his fellow Celtic fans to put it away or he'd be 'sorted out'. Tut Tut. My boss who is a huge Caley fan was unlucky enough to be two rows behind Neil Lemon at a recent game in Inverness. He informed me that the Caley Chairman had to have a wee word with Peter Lawwell regarding his Manager's behaviour. Apparently the language was so disgraceful that some of the kids nearby was moved away from him to a different seating area. Tut Tut As I stay in the North East of Scotland I have heard a lot of opinions about Rangers from various fans none more so than Aberdeen ones who lets just say don't like Rangers. Unbelievably to me though, towards the end of the season some actually wanted Rangers to win the league due to hating Celtic so much. I could bang on and on for much longer about the not so clean cut Celtic Football Club and I will... What about the time a plane of fans has to be diverted due to their behaviour, or the scandal that was Jim Torbett, or the recent disgrace involving poppy day. What about the songs you sing about British Soldiers. If wasn't for these British Soldiers you wouldn't be able to have the life you have today. The there was the Celtic fans who waved Palestinian and Hamas flags at the Tel Aviv fans. The sight of Celtic supporters goading your Jewish guests with anti-Semitic howls and insults was deeply shaming. Sectarian, Political, whatever angle you come from hate is hate and both sets of fans hate each other just as much! Fact is that Rangers need to change and there's things that I'm not proud about but dont ever play the poor me card about Celtic as they are fully as bad.

Ahh Brian think you are being sectarian with the use of the H*n word speaks volumes? Oh and while I'm on a minutes silence at Parkhead yesterday??????Thought a minutes applause was the Celtic way?Look forward to you shaming yourselves on remembrance day?????????

The vast majority of the Soosiders are, lets face it, a bit thick: They believe the garbage in newspapers spewed by the likes of Traynor and Jackson. Most who enjoy singing FTP are unaware 'ra pope' sent the little Dutch dwarf they hold so dear over to Ireland in 1690. They do not know what the word sectarian actually means. They have a misguided sense of superiority when half of them are living in slums, wearing their pish-stained ranjurrs trackies and drinking Bucky, they sing GSTQ yet their club have avoided paying their dues for the past 10 years,......and most are just plain ugly and probably have tiny dicks which would explain their perma-rage. Oh...and the fact their bitter rivals won the Big Cup in Lisbon under a Protestant manager :o)) That gets on their tits too. If it were a dug, it would be put doon. Hopefully Aul' Lizzie will go someway to doing just that. Hail Hail

@BUX That was a good story.... You proved my earlier point anyway, so thanks.

I find it remarkable that Celtic fans reckon they are squeaky clean. It is only a matter of time before the focus is on you. I'm a Rangers fan and, contrary to opinions of many Celtic fans, a lot has been done to remove sectarian singing from matches. I don't feel that there is any place for the sash at any football match, anyone who tries to justify the singing of the sash by saying it isn't sectarian (officially) is deluded and misses the point completely. IMO, songs like the Billy Boys were sung so much mostly down to the tune that accompanied it, same applies to the famine song - the chorus was only ever sung. To be clear, there is no place for these at any match. Songs like boys of the old brigade bring shame on Celtic and this will very soon cause trouble for Celtic - however many Celtic fans feel that this song is acceptable.

These comments are at times wide of the mark and typically bias. Instead of watching what rangers fans are doing to you and your team perhaps you and your team should look more inwardly. Last season more time was spent blaming others and finding excuses than actually concentrating on thriving on a new era for Celtic football club. Both clubs are EQUALLY as bad and without eachother neither would work. The attempt at footballing comments suggesting rangers 'fall at the first hurdle every year' also serves to demonstrate you pay little attention to the footballing matters at hand. Is it not Celtic who have, particularly in recent years, fallen at the first hurdle? While rangers reap the rewards of sustain uefa cup runs or millions on offer from CL group matches? Both of which have served to reduce debt for the ibrox club? . It may be considered childish but I cannot close without commenting on the stadium being knocked down.. My fear is that due to sub standard build quality (constructed by BARR construction I believe) Celtic footballs club struggle to maintain the general structure of the building and it is, infact, only the millions spent glossing over by literally painting over the cracks thats allows Celtic to pretend there home is a stadiumn fit for champions.

Well ive heard it all now what is this guy on.For him to prove this absolute delusional thought he must know a lot of Rangers who have told him this.If now back to the looney bin with him.INCREDIBAL

Well where i live i know about the same amount of celtic fans who hate rangers as rangers hate celtic so away back 2 yer hole you crawled out of.

haha @super fugly orcs - go and take a lie down and think what you've just said

Wow!! An unbelievably ill-informed, error strewn, factually incorrect article. I really can't believe the hypocrisy of this piece. Cast your mind back a few months to when Rangers were in grave financial difficulty and desperately looking for a new owner to take the club forward. Many of the Celtic websites (such as e-tims,monthehoops,celtic-mad,scotzine etc) were full of Rangers-haters feverishly discussing the impending demise of their great rivals. Some of the comments and discussions were shocking to say the least. Barely an article to be found about their own club. Let's have a little look at the hypocrisy - "Celtic was founded in 1888 by Irish/Catholic immigrants and for the first four years had a pro-Catholic recruitment policy" Pro-Catholic?? Is this not just "anti-protestant" under another name? I bet you never refer to Rangers signing policy as "pro-protestant" do you? "Rangers however, were founded sixteen years prior to us in 1872 with no obvious links to any section of society or religion". Having read the last few quotes, can you now see the hypocrisy of your statement which precedes these quotes "History shows us that Rangers are a club built on foundations in opposition to Celtic"? No? Check the dates and think again!

Do you actually think that rangers fans hate celtic more than either you hate us/or we love out own club? Go on newsnow celtic page and count how many article there are about rangers, then go to newsnow rangers and count the articles about celtic, thats where you will get your answer. Celtic fans go out their way to have a go at rangers/rangers fans at any oppertunity. Concentrate on your own club. You still dont have a decent keeper and dont get me started on 3 in a row WATP!

Celtic supporter attempts to claim the moral high ground due to the fact that Rangers have secured yet another title. What is new?

super fugly orcs seen your so good at googling ya dick google this ,THERES AS MUCH CATHOLICS THAT STAYS NEAR IBROX THAN PROTESTANTS IF NOT MORE ,YOU SAYING YOUR OWN KINDS SO THICK ?????EVEN URE LANGUAGE TOWARDS US SAYS IT ALL GO BACK TO YOUR BUCKFAST AND DRUGS YA INBRED BASTARD

roddy i had the displeasure of working at the old parkhead doing some renovation work if the stadium they have now is as bad as the old one they had then nothing surprises me then the toilets were an absolute disgrace and how they got a safety certificate for some of the work that was done on the stairs beats me it was acomplete midden and to this day still is

I am amazed at the utter crap people have to say on Rangers and Celtic. Put it this way, without the other club, neither would exist. I am a Rangers fan I have no hatred towards Celtic or any of their fans. I am fed up hearing fans bleat on about tiny differences and behaviour over the last hundred years. Why don't we just have a season where we can enjoy the Old Firm as its Scotland's only decent game.. You don't get any bigger a Old Firm Supporter than Neil Lennon and Ally McCoist and quite frankly if they can kiss and make up why can't everyone else...?!

Aye right......ira songs and chants only last season at Hearts. aeroplane signs to Rangers USA captain and player after 9/11.......John Hartson and Co in Donegal singing ira songs......Manager neil lennon singing "oh rangers are sh1te while behind a bar" (check utube) and then the Septic/Celtic board see him as fit to manage their 'club'............quality! Celtic and the Irish = Always play the victim! Who are the champions? This 'poorest Rangers team in years, club financially ruined' wins 3 in a row will celtic playing 'spectacular barcelona football' pick up the wooden spoon.........ya loooooosers!!!!

This dribble bores me now.... Im a Rangers season ticket holder of 15 years. My grandad was slashed by a Celtic fan after an old firm game when he was 21. Hatred much??? None of my Rangers mates go to church but neither do any of my Celtic mates. Get religion to feck away from my club, its a football team. I loathe the N Ireland contingent who pretend to support my team and Im sick of the bitter bile of IRA sympathy i hear from certain Celtic supporters. Recently i have noticed a difference in views coming from both sets of supporters. We mutually disagree with the sectarianism. I still do hate you all though lol but not because of your views or personality... Because you wear the green and white and are the main threat to my team winning silverwear. Thats it.... Just sayin! So.......... WATP LOL

@Jan - "Please inform us of any game were the Celtic support conducted themselves in such a manner as the thugs who brought such shame on their country, city and club," The day Rangers won the title at Parkhead, 3-0 Rangers won, Celtic fans ran on the pitch and tried to attack hugh dallas, one succeeded in hitting him with a coin causing him to bleed. Possibly the ugliest scenes to shame scottish football. The tit for tat could go on for some time... What I find funny is the writer tells us how Rangers fans hate Celtic more they love their club yet this Celtic fan has an awful lot to say about Rangers, I wonder if you could recite all the "trouble" Rangers fans have been in off the back of your head... and Rangers fans are the ones obsessed with Celtic... As for the alleged chanting that has disappeared from parkhead? You only have to see the videos from youtube from Celtic's most recent home game against wolves where the celtic section engage in chants of "ooh ah up the ra"... I could sit and pick this whole article apart but I only skimmed it and the comments because quite honestly, its a load of drivel

I see that DC can't read. He may want to jave someone read this column to him and maybe they will see the words that he couldn't, or didn't. The column is dead on. Yes, we are as bad as each other in as much as we taunt them with every opportunity, but as bad in the hatred? No. They hate US. We hare what they stand for. Thats a big difference.The hatred they have reached the all time low last season as they tried to murder our manager. Why? Because we owned rangers last year. Every fan in the game in Scotland knows who were the real champions last season. The murder attempts were successful in their goal to have the manager take his eye off the ball in some games and this worked. It also spread through the ranks of the referees with some being extremely biased towards us and intimidating the manager until they could ban him. They also intimidated further by after banning him and messing up with the hand out of the punishment, they told the instigator that he had no case to answer, told threerede carded players they also had no case to answer, thus further inflaming a situation they created. In making the "no case to answer" decision, they did a "Dougie" and blamed the ref saying his report left them no option! Dallas would be so proud. Every Celtic fans knows where these threats from last year originated. We are not naive enough to believe they were the work of individuals. It will not work this year. Count on it.

@Joe G- "Every fan in the game in Scotland knows who were the real champions last season" Rangers

Mr Brodie Rae Smithers I started reading your "article" with the headline ahving caught my attention. As i read it though all I seen was a biased point of view from one side of the fence having not been on both, scewed in Celtic's favour. "Rangers, on the other hand, don’t seem to be close to relinquishing their grip on the hatred. So seemingly steadfast is their absolute abhorrence for us that it remains in full force regardless of the consequences." is where i stopped reading your social propoganda as it's simply lies that one side of the city has convinced it's self to be true in order to claim a moral high ground that does not exist. I could go into detail with you about the issue but I suspect rather than conceed we both (Rangers & Celtic) have issues within their support and that in fact it's not as bad in reality as some like to make out (i.e. look at the banana throwing at rivaldo in Russia just a few weeks ago), you'd much rather trench yourself in for a "but your support has done this" arguement. I thought the point of a journalist in any sense was to be impartial and deliver the facts? What you've done here is given a choice selection in Celtic's favour as degrading Celtic's image or that of their fans is not part of who you are and therefor it shows in this tripe. You will however give further route to a misguided belief that 'Celtic are the good guys and it's all the big nasty Rangers fault' by Celtic fans and further alienate the moderate Rangers fans.

Where at any point have Celtic fans said they are whiter than White ?????? Rangers fans trot this old chestnut out every time someone has a pop at them. I'm well aware, as are most Celtic fans that we have a substantial minority who are at times an embaressment to our club,and I would love nothing more than for them to fcuk off. But I would say ..based on the evidence....Rangers have a far worse problem,and generally this is an opinion held by most.When they refer to Rangers fans singing the anti catholic stuff usually this is equalised by saying Celtic fans sing pro Pira songs,sometimes Rangers fans taking the moral high ground,saying it's a disgrace singing songs that are pro a terrorist organisation yet very little is mentioned about the pro Loyalist paramilitary songs ..mostly pro uvf sung by them.

Yes, we hate you. We are forever having to bail you lot out, most recently, to stop your dear ol Ireland going bankrupt. A few years ago, this was one of the poorest countries in Europe. Then, thanks to massively over borrowing, we were supposed to believe that Ireland was the jewel in Europes financial crown. Do you think we are stupid? Only an idiot would believe that Ireland could be a success story when they failed miserably at the only thing they have ever produced, the potato. Then just like now, we who you call sectarian and bigoted, come to your aid, like the true god loving people we have always been. And what do we get as thanks in return? Terrorism.

So glad I grew out of supporting one half of the old firm when I was 12 to support my local team. What a load of shite.

Being an Irishman it may be assumed that I support Celtic, I don't, nor do the vast majority of people i know. In fact I'd go as far as to say i despise the OF. I hate the use of the history of my country as a game of point scoring, I hate that the flag of my country is bastardised by morons who probably know sweet fa about the history of this nation i live in. The blue side are no better, Loyalism & Orangism (mostly plastic) used as an weapon to give the "Paddys" the finger. Both clubs are as bad as each other, supporting the UVF doesn't make you any better than an IRA supporter. Stick to football and leave this island out of it, both North & South

Celtic fan takes the moral high ground shocker! Yawn.

Joe G sorry nearly choked on my cornflakes there erm who was the champions ?? i love beating you lot of course i do i hate you with a passion your always mumping and moaning about refs can i ask you something, HOW COME YOU NEVER MOANED WHEN CELTIC WON NINE IN AROW ??? no mention of corrupt refs there yet we had the sight of the other bigot billy mcneil saying refs have always favoured rangers the stats are there for every one to see ...THEY DIDNT ..YOUVE HAD LESS PLAYERS SENT OFF ..LESS PLAYERS BOOKED AND SO ON BUT THE OLD DUMMY GETS THROWN OUT THE PRAM AS USUAL OHH IM A ROMAN CATHOLIC EVERY ONES AGAINST US ..WHAT IM REALLY SAYING YOU LOT NEED TO GET A LIFE YOU UTTERLY MAKE ME SICK

TrueBlue - how do you know we never moaned when we won 9IAR? My god could you imagine if we'd had blogs back then? Don't forget, it was comments after we WON against Dundee Utd last year that proved the referees lied to Lennon - you think that wasn't done back in the 60s? It's just we were TOO GOOD! That's why you orcs HATE Jock Stein so much and try to smear him - there's another example of the HATE right there (see I can use caps too"!). And AlanMcManus, given HBOS & RBS's recent performance, I wouldn't put Scotland at the top of the financial pride league anymore...

Who sanctioned this moron to write this hate filled garbage?

Re Dub.I take it your from Co Dublin.Well i just have to remind you of your history to get the full story.If it wasn't for British interference in Ireland and their poor approach to the famine,then the people of Ireland would not have to escape murder,fear or famine. I might have a Scottish accent but im proud of my Irish ancestry.So if people feel a sense of Repulicanism in their blood and you cant understand it,then try and live in the West of Scotland amongst the "We arra Peeeple Fraternity.

You've missed my point Sean, It's a history that the people of Ireland don't need reminding of, we're more than aware of it. For years this country has tried to move forward from petty sectarianism. There's nothing wrong with feeling a sense of national pride or identity but if it's "Up the RA" you can keep it as far as im concerned. If people in Ireland can move on there surely there's no reason why people in Scotland can't?

Dub,We Irish in Scotland are reminded frequently when our own marching season is in full swing, of our place in Scottish Society! I have family in Dun na ngall & Doire. The one's in Letterkenny have different views from those in the Bogside and the Strand. Do you know why? Because those who live in Eire do not live in an Orange Statelet,where being Irish is somehow deemed to be alien in their (own) country.I was at the Dublin Super Cup at the weekend and my friends and i were in Murrays, O Connell St on Saturday evening,the Players Lounge on Sunday evening listening to some great republican bands from Scotland & Ireland,somehow listening to and singing Celtic and Rebel songs in "our own country" is, as far as im concerned is not sectarian.Jan made a great point earlier about the Famine song.Its distgusting to those people who died and to those that survived and can still trace their families back to the 1840s & 50s. I'd like to remind the little heinous composer that we dont have to go home cause the famine is over, as our families who arrived here during those terrible times, were British Citizens. They were of course as British as any other citizen in the UK at that time,but were they treated in the same manner as a UK citizen? I think not!!! So where do think sectarianism started? Im not getting at you Dub,Im merely pointing out the link between being Irish or off the Irish in Scotland,that we feel a great allegiance to our forefathers and even our Fathers or Mothers who were born in Ireland and live in this wee anti Irish,Catholic,Celtic country.

regards from the best wee bigoted country in the world and well said sean!

sean there's no starvation in ireland now,so you could infact return,ofcourse you might not get your disability benefits paid as i don't think they consider being an alcoholic as being disabled.....

l cant bring myself to even say "THEIR" name, l hate everything green, and no l dont sing FTP, l dont sing the Billy Boys, or anything anti catholic, but l hate the manky mob from the PIGGARY and love it that we are "THE CHAMPIONS" again, love every minute of it, never forget "WE ARE THE PEOPLE" !!!

jocky bhoy dont put words into my mouth where did i say i hated jock stein were u born then ???? i was i went through it but hate to tell u we had newspapers back then and i lived in quite a catholic area ..and sean oryan go read up on the irish coming over here they wanted nothing to do with the scottish people not the other way about and go into any celtic forum and read it every thgings anty protestant or us orangs bs or a hun hate to tell you im not in the lodge or a bastard or a hun when it comes to it im no fucking german

ahhh-the same old,same old-heard all this stuff from both sides for eternity and it does my head in.rangers have a far bigger problem than celtic...i think that much is obvious over the years but that is not to say there is a significant minority of celtic fans who do themselves or the club no favours with their ahem...'political songs'-politics and religion should not be the basis of what can still be a great rivalry-i dont think there are 2 such big,closely matched clubs from the same city anywhere in the world and that alone could make the rivalry and bitterness unique,there is nothing wrong with despising each others team but do it just because you love you own and your neighbours are a threat,dont bang on about catholics and protestants,it really does make scotland look like a very small minded,ignorant backwater

im a rangers fan but not a bitter one but i have to agree i hate the functions i used to attend..it is so anti-catholic it was shocking..my wife is a catholic so i wasnt putting up with it anymore..i support my club but all this anti-catholic stuff has nothing to do with football

my comment is awaiting moderation since 1311 ? Da proddy CENSORSHIT ! Having read the Hunnery's comments-mine are unacceptable ? I'd be delighted to learn just exactly what it is that you find so ojectionable about the simple FACTS I iterated. I FEAR THE REF TONITE ! I FEAR THE REF TONITE ! I FEAR THE REF TONITE !

What an absolute load of rubbish. There is no objectivity in this piece what so ever. No mention of the recent fine Celtic just received for their carry on - of course not. And out of all the songs Rangers may have sung, you have NEVER had heard of thesupporting a terrorist organisation such as Celtic fans do with the IRA. Go do some proper research then try and write this piece again.

It disgusts me when my team are compared to Rangers! Their support is the most vile of supports.

are we really BIG MIKE ? take if youve never sifted through you tube and see your vile support how about where i stayed your so called nice support stoning an ambulance crew while attending an old woman ..how about preseason your nice support hitting a small child with a brick how about even one of those post on here calling us huns ..erm ws that not banned by the nil by mouth campaign ???? no your right BIG mike WE SHOULDNT BE COMPARED TO YOU because your bloody scum

william milne.... your saying one thing while meaning another there your still in denial that its just a minority at celtic that cause problems

this is to "B"...Are you honestly telling me that Rangers fans dont sing songs glorifying terrorists???? Your either deluded of deaf.What about, Here lies a soldier!!! Daddies Uniform??? and quite clearly a few times last night ..Fathers Advice.Not forgetting the old classic " we are not sectarian , we are the UVF. Coupled with cnuts sitting accross from me with a "purple UVF flag" and another cretin with YCV flag. And pretty sure that fcukin belter "Build my gallows" was slabbered a few times last night.So dont make me laugh with your hypocricy, ya muppet.

so trueblue ...just how many Celtic fans are causing "problems" at Celtic if its not a minority??? Of course its a minority,if your trying to suggest that the majority of fans at Celtic Park are causing " problems " then your in need of a lie down.Every club has a few morons who cause problems every now and again.Celtic fans arent lily white and i dont see any one pretending that we are.All i see on here is Rangers fans trying to occupy the moral high ground,that in itself is staggering considering some of the "problems" a minority of your clubs fans cause. As i said in my past posts to try and take Celtic fans to task about "singing songs glorifying terrorists" whilst singing songs yourselves .."glorifying terrorists"..honestly you couldnt make that one up.Worry about your own team/fans/club and we'll worry anout ours

richiebhoy away u go u fecking muppet not some wee daft boy your talking to u lot always denied theres anything wrong at the piggery so its the same celtic supporters all the time on you tube thats causing bother was it the same supporters who stoned an ambulance crew was it the same supporters who stoned alittle kid is it the same supporters who walk up and down near where i live and sing their fucking ira songs ??? minority my arse deny hide cheat abuse the celtic family way now fuck off im deleting my email so i dont have to listen to gob shites like you

We`re top o` the league & they`re naw ..Jan 2012

if celtic want to join english football,they'll have to start at the bottom...like torbet....you naughty bhoy you.

why don't you focus on what you got in common , your both Christian, your both maily working class and your both shit at football on a european level , this hate is really pathetic you all say you a better than one another read the bible and turn the other cheek ignorant people

So let me get this straight, if we read the bible then we will be able to turn the other cheek as ignorant people? I kinda agree with that however I think I would prefer to ignore all that religious nonsense. Evolution should cure us of it in time and Hector should rid us of the evil scourge in any case. GSTQ and her loyal tax collectors.

i read as many comments as poss-b4 i couldnt take it anymore-there is a guy on here slagging celtic fans for waving a palestinian flag in tel a viv-well rangers fans waved the star of david while all the time givin the nazi salute-unbelievable some of the rangers fans comments-manchester?-someone said it was "a couple of hundred fans" that went on the rampage-ARE YOU SERIOUS- a small minority never looked so big-after celtics rise the scottish ppl didnt want these catholic irishmen being sucessfull,thats why the cry went up for a scots protestant team to stop this club-untill then rangers werent protestant only,but from then they were,you do know rangers didnt sign danny mc grain be cause of his name dont you?they thought he was catholic (which he wasnt)-i could spend hours here puttting ppl str8,but believe me i played football,my friends turned into very sucessfull footballers,courted by rangers-you come tell them rangers didnt have an anticatholic policy then,i know because my m8 was set to sign untill they discovered he was catholic-his isnt an irish/catholic name so they were ready to throw money at him,im talking 1990+ UNTILL the question came up-he was ditched asap after-so dont talk shit-i know personally